Is there anything about fine arts photgraphy in this forum?
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i think there is this other website called www.1x.com that has pictures that are more fine art.
For CS, in my own humble opinion, contains a wider variety of stuff.
For CS, in my own humble opinion, contains a wider variety of stuff.
hello everyone,
thank you for all the replies...
i'm not referring to posting of any nude photos around, after all, a nude photography is not always referred to fine arts, isn't it?
I was just kinda confused for the fact that the people that i meet here are really obsessed about taking photos which are sharp, clear... etc etc...
no offense thought, i'm pretty sure a good photograph doesn't mean that it has got to be really sharp, not under/over exposed....
yea...basically, it as got something to do with the mechanics of consumerism vs quality of the photos...
and yea, i realized that most people around are obsessed with gears for shooting.. which makes up photos which i dont see any value, or in fact, purpose to it....
sorry if i've got the wrong idea passed around...
i just hoping to find an answer.. where's the fine arts photography?????
i've always thought that that's the big thing in photography.... but not at all here????
thank you for all the replies...
i'm not referring to posting of any nude photos around, after all, a nude photography is not always referred to fine arts, isn't it?
I was just kinda confused for the fact that the people that i meet here are really obsessed about taking photos which are sharp, clear... etc etc...
no offense thought, i'm pretty sure a good photograph doesn't mean that it has got to be really sharp, not under/over exposed....
yea...basically, it as got something to do with the mechanics of consumerism vs quality of the photos...
and yea, i realized that most people around are obsessed with gears for shooting.. which makes up photos which i dont see any value, or in fact, purpose to it....
sorry if i've got the wrong idea passed around...
i just hoping to find an answer.. where's the fine arts photography?????
i've always thought that that's the big thing in photography.... but not at all here????
hellfire88
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thanks for the link! was looking for inspiration for portraits and the style there suits my taste. amazing shots.... :thumbsup:
Sad to say, the fine art photography market in Singapore is next to non-existent. That ripples down to its photography forum. Though I would say this is more of a camera gear forum.
Royale With Cheese
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Yep, I have no idea why as well... :dunno:
I've seen many with high end gears but the shots turn out more like snap shots from a compact point & shoot really :think:
It is a pitty fine art photography is not here. I like Frank Jackson:
http://www.fotographz.com/
There is no exact definition for it. However, I believe it needs to fulfill the creative vision through some form of a discourse that is defined by the artist him/herself. Another thing is the way it is applied. Commercial photography in general is photography that serves a commercial purpose. It uses photography as an instrument for the purpose of commerce (i.e. advertising, stock imagery, editorials, etc.), and it doesn't necessarily need any deeper thought. Most basic example will be celebrity endorsements. There is no real value is such photographs apart from its ability to sell, which is the main point of commercial photography. Fine art on the other hand, is the opposite. It doesn't need to sell. It needs to communicate to its audience and in different ways. Although in recent years the line is starting to blur as technology has advanced, and fine art is actually finding its way into the commercial industry.
Something that is really lacking here or Singaporean photographers in general. I mean seriously, how often have you seen the bulk of esplanade photos or the usual xmm poses under "fashion". Put it crudely, it is the camera that is doing the job more than the photographer. Don't get me wrong. I do value the importance of having good compositions in photography, but the thing is, many photographers can do that too. Go start searching on flickr and you will find MILLIONS of good-looking photographs but few make impact. In another words, there is no depth in the photographs. For commercial or stock, they work fine but they're nothing outstanding.
There is also a common misconception that a good photograph needs to be aesthetic. I think the easiest analogy will be movies in general. There are great films that do not have much cinematography. They do not use visual effects and could possibly be just dialogue. However, as you watch such films you do feel some sort of a connection, or possibly a certain emotion that goes beyond good cinematography. Same here with photography.
Of course, with all that being said, of course some of you might be asking for examples. Unfortunately, I don't have any on hand that I can really show you, but I will definitely start posting once I find some. Many of such fine works don't usually get transmitted online readily.
http://www.photographyserved.com has some very interesting works but that's only the surface of things.
If you are really interested, toss away that camera book and start searching our local libraries for books on photography rather than cameras.
Several days back, Dream Merchant posted a pretty good series on the MF thread:
http://www.dayswithmyfather.com/ and I think everyone should take a look
If you were to look at it, the lighting isn't always perfect, nor the focus, nor the composition. But there is a deeper meaning in this photographs. Something I urge my fellow Singaporean photographers to start looking into. Enough with trying to get sharp photos or the best lenses. Start to think of creating a body of work that speaks, something that you wish to say through your photography. If you guys can invest so much money and time into TFCDs, organised shoots, your equipment, you can definitely make something out of it. And should you post your photographs for C&C, give it more thought in the way you sequence it because it matters.
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Must be the digital era. :bsmilie: in the film days no one cared what camera you used.. they would only look at the pictures you took..
that's because in the past the cameras didn't make a difference, not in the IQ dept at least. These days you can have good gear to make up the lack of skills, and so many people get the impression good gear is everything. Besides photography in the past really took skills, not just in the artform, but in operating a camera. Skills that are not attractive to a regular joe. These days they are automated, anyone with fingers will be able to use 1, hence the popularity. We humans like to pick up things that are easy
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bro your landscape pics are :thumbsup:
No, you've totally hit the nail on the head. I find myself scratching my head when I see people post:
It doesn't tell me anything for starters since barring some exceptions, a photograph should be sharp so the fact that it is sharp really doesn't tell me much. I sat through a (really bad) camera club session a few weeks back that I'd happily forgotten about during my trip back to Singapore, with the judging harping on shot after shot about something being "sharp", or other inane comments.
I've also been bleating on to people that basically the difference I see between the average photographer in the UK is that they are focused on the image, while the average photographer in Singapore is focused on the technology.
There is a huge difference between someone who is trying to learn about photographs, and someone who is trying to enjoy using cameras.
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