Is the S5 Pro still a worthwhile buy?


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And if I underexposed to preserve gown detail then the face and especially the eyes were way too dark. In this instance I opted to expose for the face and eyes and the gown suffered.

is it taken with your canon/leica setup? Did you meter the gown and use fill flash for the face or at least a reflector?
 

PWas all this sharpening done in Hyper Utility?

Nope. I use Unsharp Masking in Adobe Photoshop.

On page 2, post 31, there are two samples posted by Photobum, one with DR at 400% and the other at 230%. These are supposed to be 100% crops. I don't see any additional softness in the 400% shot and I suspect that increasing the DR does not do anything to sharpness directly but yields a lower contrast image.

Contrast can have an effect on perceived sharpness.

However I'd let the users of this camera comment further on this.

Yes, there is no loss in sharpness with DR setting increase to 400%.
 

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Hey can someone post a shot without sharpening at 6 and 12 Megapixel, with DR set off and with DR at 200%, say? I was under the impression that part of the DR compromise one makes is that the image is softer. Thanks.

The sun today is not blazing and glaring enough for DR test. Maybe when the sun is brighter tomorrow, I will test for you with and without DR at 200%. ;)

However, here is the resolution test, using one of the sharpest lens I have - the Carl Zeiss 85mm f1.4 ZF.

123MPSharpnesstest.jpg

12.3 MP (full frame)



61MPSharpnesstest.jpg

6.1 MP (full frame)


123MPCroptest.jpg

12.3 MP (cropped)


61MPCroptest-2.jpg

6.1 MP (cropped)
 

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is it taken with your canon/leica setup? Did you meter the gown and use fill flash for the face or at least a reflector?

Unfortunately I didn't have the luxury of working with reflectors and only had a fill-flash. It was a very overcast day to start off with. For photos where I didn't need a flash the highlights didn't blow too badly, but with a flash the issue was worse. I anticipate that on a very bright day with direct sunlight the exposure would have been an even greater challenge.

The trouble is that the flash understandably throws light in all directions, hence some of it would hit the gown and potentially cause problems. If I decided to use a snoot or honeycomb grid (or whatever they call those) to narrow the beam to a specific spot then I might get harsh shadows on the face right?

Again all this is in theory. I had to work quickly and no assistant really. If I did meter the gown then should I have dialed in positive exposure compensation? If I didn't, then wouldn't the background turn out to be noticeably darker?
 

The sun today is not blazing and glaring enough for DR test. Maybe when the sun is brighter tomorrow, I will test for you with and without DR at 200%. ;)

Show them at 400% also ;)
 

Show them at 400% also ;)

Pity the couple not here anymore, otherwise I could buy the S5 to try it on a second shoot to see if it made any difference. I am probably at fault also perhaps with exposure but was lucky to have overcast conditions for the shoot. Bright sun and I would have been stuffed!
 

Okay, all this talk about the issues I was facing with DR, maybe a few pictures are in order. I will concede that inaccurate exposure may have been the cause of it. I've always had the tendency to err on a brighter exposure rather than a darker one. It's a habit of exposing to the right that I've done for just about everything to minimize noise and posterization.

In this first photo fill-flash was used (not sure how much FEC was used, positive or negative), but EC was set to - 1/3 stop. On comp during RAW processing it looked slightly bright so I pulled exposure back 0.17 stops. On my screen the faces look correctly exposed (although the groom's a little dark) but the gown details have been blown out of the water:

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Even in this next instance where flash wasn't used and I exposed it such as the faces looked 'correct' at +1/3 EC to compensate for bright sky and bride's gown and I have once again lost detail in the gown:

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This last photo used fill-flash and +1/3 EC for the background and was probably the best-case scenario I could find for the day, sufficient exposure for faces, adequate detail in the gown but now losing detail in the groom's coat:

326V3510.jpg
 

However, here is the resolution test, using one of the sharpest lens I have, the Carl Zeiss 85mm f1.4 ZF.

Far out. Are those 100% crops? How much sharpening? I'm ready to take back any comments I wrote about the S5 being 'soft'!
 

Here is my buddy's sister wedding taken with the Fujifilm S5 Pro at Auto DR setting. She was standing next to her bedroom windows.

Buddyssister.jpg

My buddy requested not to show her face. :angel:
 

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Here is my buddy's sister wedding taken with the Fujifilm S5 Pro at Auto DR setting. She was standing next to her bedroom windows.

My buddy requested not to show her face. :angel:

Nice one! Looks like good detail in the gown and nice skin tones. The background seems fairly dark. Did you give any exposure compensation for this scene?
 

Nice one! Looks like good detail in the gown and nice skin tones. The background seems fairly dark. Did you give any exposure compensation for this scene?

Nope. The background was darken on purpose (using exposure and aperture control) as there was a huge closet and another person behind her. It was shot in manual mode at 1/160 secs, f3.2 at ISO 640. No digital manipulation done.

BuddysSister2.jpg
 

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Just got my S5Pro.. shiok shiok... by the way.. just to check.. izzt at 400% DR and set to 12 mega pixel the image quality is lousier then 6mega pxiel 400% DR??

Or 400%DR at 12 megapixel is actually 6 mega pixel photo only?? Sorry i got confused..:sweatsm:
 

Just got my S5Pro.. shiok shiok... by the way.. just to check.. izzt at 400% DR and set to 12 mega pixel the image quality is lousier then 6mega pxiel 400% DR??

Or 400%DR at 12 megapixel is actually 6 mega pixel photo only?? Sorry i got confused..:sweatsm:

I also hope to know that. Similarly confused. Anyway, how much did you pay for the S5 pro?
 

The sun today is not blazing and glaring enough for DR test. Maybe when the sun is brighter tomorrow, I will test for you with and without DR at 200%. ;)

However, here is the resolution test, using one of the sharpest lens I have - the Carl Zeiss 85mm f1.4 ZF.

123MPSharpnesstest.jpg

12.3 MP (full frame)



61MPSharpnesstest.jpg

6.1 MP (full frame)


123MPCroptest.jpg

12.3 MP (cropped)


61MPCroptest-2.jpg

6.1 MP (cropped)

Seems the same to me in terms of sharpness.
 

Seems the same to me in terms of sharpness.

Now that I see the 100% crops, it's more in line with what I expected to see from the S5. Initially, thinking that the FF shots were 100% crops I was very taken aback at the very high level of sharpness.

Looking at the 100% crops it seems to echo similar crops provided by Photobum previously on the HDB blocks. Shoot at 12MP and it gives you a more contrasty image with lower DR. The 12MP crop seemed sharper to me by a hair's width, but in both crops there seems to be some banding that's most noticeable in the darkened area between the curtains on the left side. Hopefully Photobum will be able to comment if this is truly banding or really a reflection in the windows.
 

Nope. The background was darken on purpose (using exposure and aperture control) as there was a huge closet and another person behind her. It was shot in manual mode at 1/160 secs, f3.2 at ISO 640. No digital manipulation done.

BuddysSister2.jpg

Wow. This second image (assumed to be the original, because the person is still in the background) is bright. The final image was nicely processed indeed.
 

I also hope to know that. Similarly confused. Anyway, how much did you pay for the S5 pro?

1188. just to check how do u select auto ISO in aperture mode? and when u looking at image zooming in is up down... to see left or right is press what keys?
 

1188. just to check how do u select auto ISO in aperture mode? and when u looking at image zooming in is up down... to see left or right is press what keys?

to see left and right, press the preview button again
 

1188. just to check how do u select auto ISO in aperture mode? and when u looking at image zooming in is up down... to see left or right is press what keys?

For auto ISO, press setup button, go exposure, then go iso auto control
 

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