Micro four-thirds could replace a dSLR but not in any of the current three bodies. Technology is constantly shifting and to say "cannot" or "will not" with certainty is really rather uncertain.
Is the Oly E-P1 good enough as a dSLR replacement?
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Micro four-thirds could replace a dSLR but not in any of the current three bodies. Technology is constantly shifting and to say "cannot" or "will not" with certainty is really rather uncertain.
Tokyoexpress
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its wise as a 2nd or backup camera, but I felt stun when i first saw the video clips taken by EP1... I have never seen any camera that take such high resolution video... The humans in the video clips is like so 3D and touchable... :bsmilie:
Hmm... I may get a ep1 soon... But i already already got 11 cameras at home hence it might not be wise to BBB~ Has been thinking should i switch off my G10 for an EP1...? or perhaps get a sigma DP2 instead...
Hmm... I may get a ep1 soon... But i already already got 11 cameras at home hence it might not be wise to BBB~ Has been thinking should i switch off my G10 for an EP1...? or perhaps get a sigma DP2 instead...
Simple reasoning: Olympus won't create a product that kills their DSLR offerings....won't that be slapping themselves on their face?
You may get almost same IQ but definitely bigger hardware calls for different usage.
Of course, many can argue technology has advanced and I believe companies can anytime create a small camera that has everything but it will not be viable and they will have to sack everyone from the marketing department.
Technology may have advanced, but photographers are still judged by the pictures they take, not the cameras they used.
You may get almost same IQ but definitely bigger hardware calls for different usage.
Of course, many can argue technology has advanced and I believe companies can anytime create a small camera that has everything but it will not be viable and they will have to sack everyone from the marketing department.
Technology may have advanced, but photographers are still judged by the pictures they take, not the cameras they used.
So true. The best tool for the best job. Comparing PnS, DSLR and now the Pen is almost like comparing a screw-driver, hammer and a jack knife. For me, it's a great jack knife and I have no use for the hammer.
Actually I did that with my previous A300...and I believe any DSLR with tilting LCD and fast AF Liveview is able to do that.
The pen is smaller and lighter,which means not as noticeable and easier to carry, unless the person you're shooting is someone like me,pretty sensitive to the presence of cameras taking me ;p
Well agreed the size is advantage of EP1. But since bro Drakon09 brought up that not many DSLR can do that, I thought of sharing my experience with A300 of taking photos of my son at hip or even ground level...
Fast AF is a must for kids photography though...
It's true,cameras like the E-510,E-410,E-3 all have to flip the mirror down and up for focus,making it slower assuming that no one has thought of swiveral screens,the E-P1 has a VERY wide viewing angle making it possible to shoot at hip level.
My expeiernce with the E-P1 is that the focus is slowing at night,day time I can still feel its sluggishness but I know how to work with it :bsmilie:
But I believe what Drakon09 is trying to say is that NOT MANY DSLRs can do that,he didn't say NO DSLRs can do that,I believe he has used E-330 with 2 sensors and titlable screen and I'm sure he has used E-3 so I am confident of what he's trying to say,he may have just used the wrong words though
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I had been asking for years why can't camera maker make a small camera with large enough sensor, since I know this is possible because the pre digital era there are some pretty small camera (P&S or range finder, or whatever name you gave them), and for years there is none that come close, and finally here come the PEN... 
This is as close to a revolution as possible, as ground breaking as the first sub-1K 300D from Canon. Of course I'm not going to give up my 5DII & L lenses for this as yet, but certainly look forward to a pressure for a trend setter here to other makes to rethink their strategy. I may consider getting this as second body.
Think netbook revolution, this is probably close. Good work Olympus !
This is as close to a revolution as possible, as ground breaking as the first sub-1K 300D from Canon. Of course I'm not going to give up my 5DII & L lenses for this as yet, but certainly look forward to a pressure for a trend setter here to other makes to rethink their strategy. I may consider getting this as second body. Think netbook revolution, this is probably close. Good work Olympus !
I'd say yes and no. The E-P1 will most certainly replace my dslr in discreet shooting situations. It's really no fun having people stopping you from shooting just because the camera looks big and "pro". It's no fun when people turn away just because the camera looks intimidating. It's also no fun getting too much attention and suddenly everyone's asking you to help them take pics. Sometimes it's just nice to take pics, and that's about it, yanou?
Mmmm but for now, I guess it can't replace a dslr when it comes to high performance and the ability to look through a viewfinder when the power's off.
Mmmm but for now, I guess it can't replace a dslr when it comes to high performance and the ability to look through a viewfinder when the power's off.
What I wrote was "cannot do well/at all".
DSLRs without LiveView would be classified as "at all".
DSLRs with LiveView would be classified as "cannot do well" - simply because of the weight and bulk of DSLRs, you'll kill your wrists. (Of course there's always the contortionist method of using the viewfinder, but then you'll kill your back...)
A lighter camera will offer you many interesting angles; that's not to say you can't shoot those angles with a DSLR, but it's painful to get there, literally.
nightpiper
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I had been asking for years why can't camera maker make a small camera with large enough sensor, since I know this is possible because the pre digital era there are some pretty small camera (P&S or range finder, or whatever name you gave them), and for years there is none that come close, and finally here come the PEN...
Think netbook revolution, this is probably close. Good work Olympus !
Surely u must be mistaken if u think cam makers can't make smaller cam with large sensor. Its all about cost & how much they can milk customers (think 5DmkII improvements) with their existing lineup against competition. All it takes is juz one maker thats desperate enuf to "spoil market" & the rest will follow. Imagine all the ASIC & generic chips & RAMs are manufactured using the lastest 22nm fabrication method plus integrating them all into one ULSI package, that'll shrink the whole EP1 into the past APS P&S size.
Like i mentioned in an old thread here, u'll see mega zooms P&S with APS-C sensors (Think old Sony RD-1 but much smaller). Its like a dream come true, good for walkaround, travelling, video, etc... all w/o the bulk, weight & hassle to carry/change lens. :lovegrin:
OT: i think E30 is pretty solid all rounder DSLR, how come so little is mentioned about it?
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Because the E-620 has made the E-30, well, irrelevant and pointless.
i think that acutually is more that no one has ever though about doing such a thing till now,other companies probably can do it but bigger than the E-P1 so as to accomodate the sensor size and so that light can bend inside,like why the E cameras are smaller than the others
nightpiper
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What a pity, the younger sibling is cannibalizing sales for the big bro...
Does it mean that a 'lelong' sale for E30 is coming soon? :bsmilie::bsmilie:
Hardly pointless for those who want better AF with 11 cross point type sensors, higher capacity battery, bigger, higher magnification viewfinder than the E-620.
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