it had been modular long time liao - can change lens, change flash, change strap, change screen cover, etc. and if you have the know how can change most of the thing inside also.
Is Nikon D3x the start of modular system ..
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it had been modular long time liao - can change lens, change flash, change strap, change screen cover, etc. and if you have the know how can change most of the thing inside also.
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Ah yo ...
What can I do , but what is deceiving and talking rubbish .. Please dun just ignore the History and play people knowlegde ..ah yo so fun mey ..
I shall give you proof and fact then ..
In the early begining Digital SLR it is Modular back system ..
15 years ago The Very First DSLR we saw is modular and it cost $35 000.00 sgd under the brand Nikon or Kodak , it is a less then 3mp camera and it was so noisey like what had been mention "rubbish" ..
What is so deceiving when something is so true and can be achieve with the manufacturer $ power ??
I just dun understand why go personal ?? What is "tad annoying " when you enjoy posting up and enjoying being personal .. I think you must be happy I read you post up and yes I do and I'm happy too ..
Why I started this Thread is to engage people thinking about DSLR becoming as Modular system and how modular can be a better system as compare to the Enclose units , actually as I had mention earlier it is possible at all level Nikon can build a Super nice Modular DSLR body which can support interchangable senser and Processor Board . it is definely not the way you portrait your simple mind and just say no no no ....
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What can I do , but what is deceiving and talking rubbish .. Please dun just ignore the History and play people knowlegde ..ah yo so fun mey ..
I shall give you proof and fact then ..
In the early begining Digital SLR it is Modular back system ..
15 years ago The Very First DSLR we saw is modular and it cost $35 000.00 sgd under the brand Nikon or Kodak , it is a less then 3mp camera and it was so noisey like what had been mention "rubbish" ..
What is so deceiving when something is so true and can be achieve with the manufacturer $ power ??
I just dun understand why go personal ?? What is "tad annoying " when you enjoy posting up and enjoying being personal .. I think you must be happy I read you post up and yes I do and I'm happy too ..
Why I started this Thread is to engage people thinking about DSLR becoming as Modular system and how modular can be a better system as compare to the Enclose units , actually as I had mention earlier it is possible at all level Nikon can build a Super nice Modular DSLR body which can support interchangable senser and Processor Board . it is definely not the way you portrait your simple mind and just say no no no ....
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aa .... I think I'm talking about high end DSLR Camera so I think better stay within the range and regarding to 40x la or other camera I think it is still best kept within enclose Digital body as the dollar and cent make some sense to it production ..
Modular system can be a system which can be upgradable ..
Modular system can be a system which can be upgradable ..
if by modular you mean Nikon can redesign and change the internal components without changing the shell and then sell it as a new model, that has been what Nikon, as well as others, has been doing for so long, as can be seen in the list I mentioned in an earlier post, post #15...
if by modular you mean a consumer can go back to Nikon to get them to upgrade the sensor, then there is no evidence at the current moment that Nikon is going in that direction with the D3X... they could do it if they wanted to, and they could have done it in the past, just like any other company could also have done it in the past, its just that no company (other than Red) is showing signs of going down that path...
so in answer to the statement "Is Nikon D3x the start of modular system .." as stated in the title of this thread, my answer for now is "no"... if there is evidence to show that the answer is "yes", I don't believe I have seen it yet, but do believe me when I say if it is "yes" I would be happy for that fact
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Tks for sharing :thumbsup:
And me just share share kepo kepo for this holiday ..he he he ..
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just share share kepo kepo for this holiday ..he he he ..I said a tad annoying because i didn't understand what you were saying. "you guys like my te te te te or not if not I can change also to tu tu tu tu ..."
Read what you posted in bold. I said you were deceiving yourself to think nikon would being a modular system with the D3x. I never said it was deceiving to others if thats the way you put it.
You apparently start this thread to engage people in the modular system dicussion. The title and first post don't say so.
Chill guys, this the season of give and take.
As for modular system, I remembered before the current F6 was out there was a very strong rumor circulating around and apparently "some ppl" have even seen a beta version of a modular SLR with digital back capability produced by Nikon.
It was to be a SLR that can switch between film and digital. ie the back cover of the SLR can be taken out and fitted with a digital sensor back and vice versa. It was rumored that it might be called a F6 or FD6 or something like that. But of course it did not materialized and instead just a F6 film body was launched.
As I have not personally seen or hear it first hand, it just remains a rumour. But it is highly possible and I won't be surprised it is there except that Nikon is just waiting for the "right time" to go. After all the medium format digital back is already out for many years and show that it is nothing difficult to manufacture it in a 35mm format.
As for modular system, I remembered before the current F6 was out there was a very strong rumor circulating around and apparently "some ppl" have even seen a beta version of a modular SLR with digital back capability produced by Nikon.
It was to be a SLR that can switch between film and digital. ie the back cover of the SLR can be taken out and fitted with a digital sensor back and vice versa. It was rumored that it might be called a F6 or FD6 or something like that. But of course it did not materialized and instead just a F6 film body was launched.
As I have not personally seen or hear it first hand, it just remains a rumour. But it is highly possible and I won't be surprised it is there except that Nikon is just waiting for the "right time" to go. After all the medium format digital back is already out for many years and show that it is nothing difficult to manufacture it in a 35mm format.
Let say for example, we now know that D3X is 12k-ish. If you had bought a D3 for 7k-ish before and Nikon offers to up it to 24MP at say, another 8k-ish, would you do it?
All Nikon needs to do is rip out a few boards in there and put the D3X ones inside, charge you 8k-ish for that, and they get back the D3 parts as spares. Sounds like a win-win situation, doesn't it?
I wouldn't do it... cause I would rather sell the D3 for ~5.5-6k-ish and buy the D3X for 12k-ish... I only have to fork out another 6-6.5k-ish along with the money I recoup from the sale of the D3 instead of 8k-ish for this "upgrade" (more like a trade-in)... to make it workable, Nikon would have to make it sufficiently cheap enough to undercut this 2nd hand sales method
I wouldn't do it... cause I would rather sell the D3 for ~5.5-6k-ish and buy the D3X for 12k-ish... I only have to fork out another 6-6.5k-ish along with the money I recoup from the sale of the D3 instead of 8k-ish for this "upgrade" (more like a trade-in)... to make it workable, Nikon would have to make it sufficiently cheap enough to undercut this 2nd hand sales method
Hmm.. you have a point... But I think it will work when the 2nd hand value of the D3 drops to a point that it becomes worthless.. Look at D1 series.. :sweat:
tell me about it... my old camera prob worth more to karanguni than in 2nd hand market
... but I doubt within the production run of say a D3X will the 2nd hand price of its corresponding D3 drop off by alot... maybe if its possible to do an "upgrade" to a next generation system would the price differential be sufficient, or if the "upgrade" price were low enough compared to 2nd hand market... its a matter of ratio of "upgrade" vs. 2nd hand market price I guess...
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Is this a thread about modular ? Then I must say modular design is much longer than you even see it, even your PnS camera are modular by design, but it is a totally different thing from user-interchangeable design. Manufacturer adopted modular design back in decades ago when you find your sensor is one piece by itself, the shutter release button is another piece, the auto focusing sensor is one component and so forth. Manufacturer uses such method to make the whole manufacturing process more automated and manageable and reusable, but it's a totally different thing when it is design like your lens interchangeable on different bodies. Such interchangeability comes with a price of more costly as well as normally much less streamline design. Look at "red", the thing looks so bulky, compared to a streamlined body like D3 or D3x, it's a different ball game.
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