[ Info ] What you use? (Editing and Post Processing)

[albertri]

Well, that's not much different than when we used film. I used to joke about the colour of the boxes relating to the colour of the photos when I worked sell cameras.

The Kodak Ektachrome 50 had a lot of blue on the box and the slides had a blue tint. The Kodacolor boxes had orange and the photos had an orange tint. Then, we had those Fujifilm boxes, which were green, and those photo prints had a green cast to them.

Times have changed but photo labs have not. :bsmilie:

hehehe back then I never noticed it anyways was not really into photography back then when I own an Oly LS100 lols ... wow I was an oly user since back then... i think i still have this cam in my store room but it's not working anymore

 

[Mikefellh]

I think photographers should go for color test.. did this few years back (it's more like color blindness test) and passed it so hopefully i could see colors correctly hahaha.

Well, you can find the standard colour blindness tests online if you Google COLOR TEST.

However, here's a much more challenging one that will also test your monitor's colour range, especially since most monitors on the market don't show the entire sRGB gamut (6 bits per colour rather than 8 bits):
http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77

 

[albertri]

Well, you can find the standard colour blindness tests online if you Google COLOR TEST.

However, here's a much more challenging one that will also test your monitor's colour range, especially since most monitors on the market don't show the entire sRGB gamut (6 bits per colour rather than 8 bits):
http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77

hey thanks will try this one also

 

[microcosm]

hehehe back then I never noticed it anyways was not really into photography back then when I own an Oly LS100 lols ... wow I was an oly user since back then... i think i still have this cam in my store room but it's not working anymore

What a blast from the past!

 

[albertri]

What a blast from the past!

I never knew i was an Olyuser those days lols anyways love this cam as it's 10X zoom and I have a wide and tele adaptors that comes with the cam bought it in Japan and it was still working I think 3-4yrs ago until the gears/motor stops working.... during that time I buy kodak rolls 3 different ISO 100, 200 and 400 lols for outdoor we use the 100/200 then indoors 400 hahaha.

 

[microcosm]

I never knew i was an Olyuser those days lols anyways love this cam as it's 10X zoom and I have a wide and tele adaptors that comes with the cam bought it in Japan and it was still working I think 3-4yrs ago until the gears/motor stops working.... during that time I buy kodak rolls 3 different ISO 100, 200 and 400 lols for outdoor we use the 100/200 then indoors 400 hahaha.

I was from the "dark side" in those days... a hardcore Nikon user. From F2AS, to FM2 to F4s, and a huge range of Nikkor lenses. Only went to Olympus during their early days of compact digital cameras (though I bought my mom a mju waterproof film camera) and was impressed with the colors. After that it was hard to go to Nikon for digital because of the nagging voice telling me in my head, that at the early days, Nikon digital DSLRs were not producing colors anywhere close to what the Olympus compacts were producing (but not having an interchangable lens system was a pain) so in the end, it was the E-System when it was finally released. Until now. Still an Olympus user for the small sensor cameras.

 

[albertri]

I was from the "dark side" in those days... a hardcore Nikon user. From F2AS, to FM2 to F4s, and a huge range of Nikkor lenses. Only went to Olympus during their early days of compact digital cameras (though I bought my mom a mju waterproof film camera) and was impressed with the colors. After that it was hard to go to Nikon for digital because of the nagging voice telling me in my head, that at the early days, Nikon digital DSLRs were not producing colors anywhere close to what the Olympus compacts were producing (but not having an interchangable lens system was a pain) so in the end, it was the E-System when it was finally released. Until now. Still an Olympus user for the small sensor cameras.

This ls100 was my 1st investment cam most of my older cam rangefinders are if my dad. I only owned few digital cam brands once konica-minolta was my 1st digital cam then moved to nikon crashed and burn then it was all sony from there on until i bump into epl1 and now e620.

So how many cams you own now bro? Noticed most of.you guys owns two brands like spidey .

 

[microcosm]

This ls100 was my 1st investment cam most of my older cam rangefinders are if my dad. I only owned few digital cam brands once konica-minolta was my 1st digital cam then moved to nikon crashed and burn then it was all sony from there on until i bump into epl1 and now e620.

So how many cams you own now bro? Noticed most of.you guys owns two brands like spidey .

You had a long and hard journey... but it is good that you been through that. It helps put things into perspective and the experience can help you when choosing your camera system.

I was a photography student in art school back in the 80s. Therefore I have invested and worked with many brands of cameras, from SLRs to medium format. My personal favourite as some here might know already, has always been the 645 medium format camera. It has the resolution of a medium format camera while retaining the ability to easily handheld and used like a SLR body form.

Cameras owned (mostly sold) is a huge range from Nikon (F2AS, FM2, F801s, F4s) for SLR to Bronica 645, 6x6, Hassey CM500, Mamiya 645, RB67, (120 format, film).

 

[spidey89]

This ls100 was my 1st investment cam most of my older cam rangefinders are if my dad. I only owned few digital cam brands once konica-minolta was my 1st digital cam then moved to nikon crashed and burn then it was all sony from there on until i bump into epl1 and now e620.

So how many cams you own now bro? Noticed most of.you guys owns two brands like spidey .

Guess most people who have dabbled in photography for a long time might use 2 brands or more , I was young and foolish, so I used a Yashica compact before using Canon film SLR, then a Canon compact (which I never enjoyed the colours but went was satisfied since I wasn't doing anything serious at that time)

As time passed, I only use my Canon SLR before getting E-510 (thanks to Microcosm ) before moving on to what I have now,both film and digital

And I got 19 for the test though I don't know how to read the graph,ahhahahah

 

[albertri]

Guess most people who have dabbled in photography for a long time might use 2 brands or more , I was young and foolish, so I used a Yashica compact before using Canon film SLR, then a Canon compact (which I never enjoyed the colours but went was satisfied since I wasn't doing anything serious at that time)

As time passed, I only use my Canon SLR before getting E-510 (thanks to Microcosm ) before moving on to what I have now,both film and digital,

wow nice to know each other experiences ... sorry if this poll becomes kopi talks hehe

you using Nikon and Oly now?

 

[albertri]

You had a long and hard journey... but it is good that you been through that. It helps put things into perspective and the experience can help you when choosing your camera system.

I was a photography student in art school back in the 80s. Therefore I have invested and worked with many brands of cameras, from SLRs to medium format. My personal favourite as some here might know already, has always been the 645 medium format camera. It has the resolution of a medium format camera while retaining the ability to easily handheld and used like a SLR body form.

Cameras owned (mostly sold) is a huge range from Nikon (F2AS, FM2, F801s, F4s) for SLR to Bronica 645, 6x6, Hassey CM500, Mamiya 645, RB67, (120 format, film).

wow you have been a serious photographer well my younger bro was into the arts since he was intro by my dad to photo shop he won some awards in webpage design while his uni day and he jump into photography when he had the $$ and bought his Canon and now a Nikon guy.. he's doing FL event shoots back home and earning serious $$:think: he was been asking me to try photography for ages... my art interest comes and go i did some water color painting when I was in Sec, then poem writing but later on lost interest as I took up Computer Engineering when i was in Uni... now went back to arts by digital photography :bsmilie:

 

[microcosm]

wow you have been a serious photographer well my younger bro was into the arts since he was intro by my dad to photo shop he won some awards in webpage design while his uni day and he jump into photography when he had the $$ and bought his Canon and now a Nikon guy.. he's doing FL event shoots back home and earning serious $$:think: he was been asking me to try photography for ages... my art interest comes and go i did some water color painting when I was in Sec, then poem writing but later on lost interest as I took up Computer Engineering when i was in Uni... now went back to arts by digital photography :bsmilie:

Yes, its getting off topic now because this thread, I just realised (again) is about editing software.

So let me repeat like a broken record :

In digital photography, shooting is only one aspect of photography in the digital era.

In film days, photographers shoot and leave almost ALL of the post processing to film labs. Which is
- Film development. (or color slides development).
- After the film has been developed (actual term is negatives), the negatives are then developed onto photo paper and some basic stuff can be done like dodging and burning.

Then came the digital scanning era, where negatives or slides are scanned into the computer for further manipulation through software like Photoshop. Photoshop was revolutionary because it gave designers and artists unheard of power to manipulate the images. And drum scanners came that allowed very high resolution images to be converted to digital and manipulated on the computer (but these days, digital medium format cameras yield higher than drum scan images).

In digital, we are doing everything ourselves.

Shooting.
Transfer images (data) onto computer.
Touch up and post processing on software.
Printing even, for those who are like me who enjoys the process of having prints made.

So the tasks for the photographer no longer ends at shooting like in the past, we are doing more and more, but yet, photographers are paid less and less... I wonder why... :bsmilie:

 

[spidey89]

wow nice to know each other experiences ... sorry if this poll becomes kopi talks hehe

you using Nikon and Oly now?

Canon and Olympus, want to switch my Canon EOS 1n for an F4, but lenses not working with so and so lenses,lack of metering with some lenses etc confuses me and puts me off so sticking with my Canon since I'm using OM lenses on my Canon, the body in a way,does nothing except being light tight:bsmilie: but if I were to switch in digital,would go for Nikon with hew newer lenses, but of course,I won't switch for no reason

 

[spidey89]

So the tasks for the photographer no longer ends at shooting like in the past, we are doing more and more, but yet, photographers are paid less and less... I wonder why... :bsmilie:

Sad part of life, here we study more,earn more and also pay more :bsmilie:

 

[microcosm]

Sad part of life, here we study more,earn more and also pay more :bsmilie:

It should be we study more, earn less and do more. :what:

 

[spidey89]

It should be we study more, earn less and do more. :what:

:think: Also true :bsmilie:

 

[rijac]

gimp and ufraw. with fastone image viewer to supplement.

 

[seafood]

......

In digital photography, shooting is only one aspect of photography in the digital era.

In film days, photographers shoot and leave almost ALL of the post processing to film labs. Which is
- Film development. (or color slides development).
- After the film has been developed (actual term is negatives), the negatives are then developed onto photo paper and some basic stuff can be done like dodging and burning.

Then came the digital scanning era, where negatives or slides are scanned into the computer for further manipulation through software like Photoshop. Photoshop was revolutionary because it gave designers and artists unheard of power to manipulate the images. And drum scanners came that allowed very high resolution images to be converted to digital and manipulated on the computer (but these days, digital medium format cameras yield higher than drum scan images).

In digital, we are doing everything ourselves.

Shooting.
Transfer images (data) onto computer.
Touch up and post processing on software.
Printing even, for those who are like me who enjoys the process of having prints made.

So the tasks for the photographer no longer ends at shooting like in the past, we are doing more and more, but yet, photographers are paid less and less... I wonder why... :bsmilie:

Most "digital" photographers are similar to the 3-in-1 coffee makers. Or the instant-all-in-1 food packs. They can prepare a meal faster than any gourmet chefs can. And they don't earn more.

Most "digital" photographers can shoot GIGABYTES of data (THOUSANDS of pics) for every shoot. In those days, film photographers find it hard to go beyond HUNDREDS of pics per shoot. I certainly wouldn't pay the crap that comes out of these "digital" photographers ....

Point being so what if anyone can do everything themselves? It is the final output that maters.

 

[microcosm]

Most "digital" photographers are similar to the 3-in-1 coffee makers. Or the instant-all-in-1 food packs. They can prepare a meal faster than any gourmet chefs can. And they don't earn more.

Most "digital" photographers can shoot GIGABYTES of data (THOUSANDS of pics) for every shoot. In those days, film photographers find it hard to go beyond HUNDREDS of pics per shoot. I certainly wouldn't pay the crap that comes out of these "digital" photographers ....

Point being so what if anyone can do everything themselves? It is the final output that maters.

Glad you used "most" in your reply.

And I also believe you do not work in an ad firm nor in the position to be one who chooses professional photographers for editorial work.

And neither are you a true professional photographer.

That is why you missed the point of my post.

What I wanted to say is, it is tougher to be a photographer these days,
and...
many think that transferring an image from their camera is the end of the photography process, but it is actually the beginning of another process to fine tune the image to create the final piece of work.

While I think you are maybe experienced in photography, but I do hope you can put things through in ways that you become a part of a photographic community. I know you are a Nikon supporter and I have been a Nikon user since 1980. But for someone who have not posted a single image thread on ClubSnap, I don't think you have the right to word that sentence so strongly, quote :

"Point being so what if anyone can do everything themselves? It is the final output that maters".

Exactly. If you have been sharing and teaching, maybe I can tolerate such arrogance as a moderator of this forums, and a major contributor and founder of the Four Thirds forums. So while I hate to publicly post such replies, I hope this serves as a reminder that within this part of ClubSNAP is a strong friendship based community where everyone knows everyone through kopi sessions and photo shoots. Coming in here and posting what you have posted only leaves a bad taste within the community.

I do hope you can rebut me with images shot by you on a series basis and that you can share to help other photographers to grow, otherwise, please... keep your peace (and your piece).

 

[hotwork77]

Most "digital" photographers are similar to the 3-in-1 coffee makers. Or the instant-all-in-1 food packs. They can prepare a meal faster than any gourmet chefs can. And they don't earn more.

Most "digital" photographers can shoot GIGABYTES of data (THOUSANDS of pics) for every shoot. In those days, film photographers find it hard to go beyond HUNDREDS of pics per shoot. I certainly wouldn't pay the crap that comes out of these "digital" photographers ....

Point being so what if anyone can do everything themselves? It is the final output that maters.

Glad you used "most" in your reply.

And I also believe you do not work in an ad firm nor in the position to be one who chooses professional photographers for editorial work.

And neither are you a true professional photographer.

That is why you missed the point of my post.

What I wanted to say is, it is tougher to be a photographer these days,
and...
many think that transferring an image from their camera is the end of the photography process, but it is actually the beginning of another process to fine tune the image to create the final piece of work.

While I think you are maybe experienced in photography, but I do hope you can put things through in ways that you become a part of a photographic community. I know you are a Nikon supporter and I have been a Nikon user since 1980. But for someone who have not posted a single image thread on ClubSnap, I don't think you have the right to word that sentence so strongly, quote :

"Point being so what if anyone can do everything themselves? It is the final output that maters".

Exactly. If you have been sharing and teaching, maybe I can tolerate such arrogance as a moderator of this forums, and a major contributor and founder of the Four Thirds forums. So while I hate to publicly post such replies, I hope this serves as a reminder that within this part of ClubSNAP is a strong friendship based community where everyone knows everyone through kopi sessions and photo shoots. Coming in here and posting what you have posted only leaves a bad taste within the community.

I do hope you can rebut me with images shot by you on a series basis and that you can share to help other photographers to grow, otherwise, please... keep your peace (and your piece).

Chill out Bros....

Every photo from anyone is unique in their own way. There should not be a "I'm better than thou" mentality and certainly should not be encouraged in ClubSNAP. Words should be chosen carefully lest it construe a different meaning to the other party. While I don't know any of you personally but I feel connected with the community thru a common hobby.

There are some who excel in their art form and would want to make a living out of it. If you think it's "crap" then don't patronise but don't go out and make a sweeping statement.

microcosm has said correctly that the image in the camera sometimes may not be the final product. In my field, the photo is only the start of a long process and the final product can be something you might use directly or indirectly.

Lastly go out and take more photos and post here. Make it a vibrant and beautiful community we can be proud of.