[ Help ] OMD EM1 Pre-Order - 2 Simple Questions

[Optoms]

My dealer just called me and said my reserve unit is expected to arrive after 7pm today. He also quoted $2830, incl GST, but payment by cash or NETS only.

Confirmed we have the same dealer....but i was not told of the cash or nets payment.

 

[shadowoflight]

ahhh!! I just got the call! so excited!

 

[Agrivar]

ahhh!! I just got the call! so excited!

Sounds like job offer call.. Lol

 

[zan82]

It is good for consumers and trouble for the retailer. Most manufacturers set a "minimal selling price" for their retailers but it is up to discretion of the retailer to give further discounts and freebies to their regular customers. So when a retailer violates this agreement and lower selling price is made known online (and thus becoming evidence for the manufacturer), their rebates and discounts from the manufacturers get cut or diminished. So that is why I think it is best for you guys to discuss prices through PM than on threads. I like to go up against manufacturers for inflating prices in Singapore (as compared to other countries) but I don't want to punish the retailers. That is my rationale. Again, I am not enforcing this as a rule in this community. We used to keep a price list but it is no longer relevant since I buy stuff online or when I am traveling to the US or Japan so I am not in touch with the market prices. You guys can share but bear in mind, your friendly retailer who gave you that little bit more discount might get punished by the manufacturer for showing you kindness. I wonder if that is a nice thing to do or not.

Ha, actually different manufacturers work differently.

For example, a famous online retailer fights with various online retailers for market share by selling below cost, and insist manufacturers to pay them for "losses" in a bid to fight for "best price", by virtue of their market strength online. Good or bad? True story, just not widely known.

To the point of inflation, different sales reps on different countries have different strategy. When a country's price is cheaper comparing to locally, for example, it might be the local sales office over there implementing a promotion, or a clearance sales. Currency fluctuations, taxes, retailer margins lead to price differentiation as well. Too many reasons for price differentiation. Well viewpoints depend on where you stand, of course...

I personally believe price war is not good, since market value of a brand new product rapidly erodes and profits dwindle for all parties, leading to for an example, lesser incentive for investing in research for manufacturers, lesser incentive for a retailer to develop better service sales service Some shops might spend more money in training staff, or hire staff with better knowledge?

Of course, being a consumer, I do agree that I like bargains, but having said so, I do and have paid for better service from our local retailers.

Look at E-M5 for example, the price is relatively stable after so long locally. Consumers are happy, retailers are happy, and of course manufacturer is happy. Win-win situation, no?

Ok let's get back to E-M1 and 12-40mm. How're you guys finding the lens, especially those who have tried 12-35mm?

 

[RyanKhoo]

Confirm cannot ...

Thanks for confirming that the E-M1 cannot record video continuously for more than 29 mins.

 

[shadowoflight]

Thanks for confirming that the E-M1 cannot record video continuously for more than 29 mins.

unless it's specifically designed to be a video cam, assume ALL photocentric cameras past present and future will not record more than 29mins.

It's not a technological limit, it's more of a tax thing I believe, read about it somewhere but I can't remember exactly where. Not to mention it helps differentiate the different types of products.

 

[Agrivar]

unless it's specifically a video cam, assume ALL photocentric cameras past present and future will not record more than 29mins. It's not a technological limit, it's more of a tax thing I believe, read about it somewhere but I can't remember exactly where. Not to mention it helps differentiate the different types of products.

Panasonic cams can. That's why I still use panny. I can shoot until the card is full using avchd

 

[RyanKhoo]

unless it's specifically designed to be a video cam, assume ALL photocentric cameras past present and future will not record more than 29mins.

It's not a technological limit, it's more of a tax thing I believe, read about it somewhere but I can't remember exactly where. Not to mention it helps differentiate the different types of products.

Your statement highlighted in red is incorrect.

My Panasonic GH3 can record until the SD card runs out ...

Tax issues aside, the limit is also imposed so that it doesn't get hot and burn. So, it is also a design issue as to whether with heat dissipation is design for when taking videos ...

 

[Ralf Winston]

Bic camera in Japan selling for about 219000 yen.........works out to be about $2800 with 12-40 F2.8

anyone knows how to read japanese ?

 

[Agrivar]

THe 3 boxes are marketing. Selling 1) The dual PDAF / CDAF focusing system. 2) Better IQ due to new image processor (Truepic VII) and new sensor 3) the usual 5 axis IBIS blah blah..

THen you see 3 prices. 144800 Yen for body only. 169800 for Body + 12-50. 219800 for Body + 12-40.

Bottom is free gift. You can choose either a MMF3 or a Sandisk extreme 32GB SD Card. Not sure if its Choosing one or you get both.

 

[shadowoflight]

Your statement highlighted in red is incorrect.

My Panasonic GH3 can record until the SD card runs out ...

Tax issues aside, the limit is also imposed so that it doesn't get hot and burn. So, it is also a design issue as to whether with heat dissipation is design for when taking videos ...

Interesting, that's most likely the exception, not the rule though.

Re: heat, I'm not so sure. I used to think of it that way too, but a lot of these products use the exact same sensor modules and their camera counterparts. Could have added heat sinks, etc, put into them, but I honestly doubt that's the case

 

[widget]

Any early birds that have received their EM-1 already collected the free gift from Olympus at River Valley?

The member's login website is still down from last night, and I can't recall already whether the freebies collection date is from 1st November or earlier.
I can only remember that the last redemption date is 30 November.

 

[vengels]

Any early birds that have received their EM-1 already collected the free gift from Olympus at River Valley?

The member's login website is still down from last night, and I can't recall already whether the freebies collection date is from 1st November or earlier.
I can only remember that the last redemption date is 30 November.

I collected on Monday. One of the guys yesterday I think.

Remember to bring Ur receipt and warranty card. Pre-order printout also.

 

[widget]

I collected on Monday. One of the guys yesterday I think.

Remember to bring Ur receipt and warranty card. Pre-order printout also.

Thanks bro....
Forgot to add, for existing E-series users, do you guys also bring your E camera and warranty card to claim the batt grip?
Why lah they only open after 11am? lol!

 

[vengels]

Thanks bro....
Forgot to add, for existing E-series users, do you guys also bring your E camera and warranty card to claim the batt grip?
Why lah they only open after 11am? lol!

I brought the my epl5 warranty card also..
But the guy said actually no need..
But of course if u have then just bring it..

 

[Windballad]

Thanks bro....
Forgot to add, for existing E-series users, do you guys also bring your E camera and warranty card to claim the batt grip?
Why lah they only open after 11am? lol!

On the same note, why they so ulu?

Edit: just collected my hld7 and met with a fellow em1 user who I saw at the m s color hands on session..

Btw only require em1 warranty card and receipt, e system body or the warranty card and receipt, plus nric..

 

[Ralf Winston]

THe 3 boxes are marketing. Selling 1) The dual PDAF / CDAF focusing system. 2) Better IQ due to new image processor (Truepic VII) and new sensor 3) the usual 5 axis IBIS blah blah..

THen you see 3 prices. 144800 Yen for body only. 169800 for Body + 12-50. 219800 for Body + 12-40.

Bottom is free gift. You can choose either a MMF3 or a Sandisk extreme 32GB SD Card. Not sure if its Choosing one or you get both.

is the free gift for pre order only ?

 

[tomcat]

i think ur price not bad. i was quoted $2830 from the dealer who i choose to collect my pre order from.

Mine is now ready for collection. Price is about halfway between yours and vengels.

 

[widget]

I brought the my epl5 warranty card also..
But the guy said actually no need..
But of course if u have then just bring it..

Just collected the HLD7 and Lowepro bag this afternoon.
Brought along my EM-5, but they just want to see the warranty card and receipt.

 

[Optoms]

Which warranty card and receipt? Em1?