HD VideoCam - HDD

[soloanvi]

Hi Guys,

Planning to get a HD Videocam with HDD media. Sort of zoomed down to 2 models, Sony HDR-SR7 or Canon HG10.

I'll be taking both indoor and outdoor videos and do some computer editing.

Anyone have experience with the above 2 models? Can share your opinion?

Tks
JC

 

[Mickey78]

Wanted to get the CX-7...but choose SR7E...i am new to VC....but so far this model has been great on my 1st project to botanic garden.only thing about this AVCHD format been giving me problem on how to burn it.....for the Photo SR7E give a satisfaction output.


waiting for the expert here to give me more information here about AVCHD format...

 

[kenele]

Wanted to get the CX-7...but choose SR7E...i am new to VC....but so far this model has been great on my 1st project to botanic garden.only thing about this AVCHD format been giving me problem on how to burn it.....for the Photo SR7E give a satisfaction output.


waiting for the expert here to give me more information here about AVCHD format...

Briefly, AVCHD is a relatively new digital compression and recording format for high definition video being promoted primarily by Panasonic and Sony. The main difference is that the MPEG-4 technology that fuels AVCHD is roughly twice as efficient as the MPEG-2 technology used in HDV.What this means is that files are 1/2 the size but retain the same high quality. This compression is so effective that new camcorders have been developed that can directly record HD video in real time to a hard drive or even flash- based memory card'Editing is the current AVCHD shortcoming. Many software based NLE programs cannot edit AVCHD video leaving the recorded files of limited use in presentations inthe medical world.Today Vegas 7+ supports AVCHD editing. Adobe Premiere still does not support the format and the message board logs are full of people being told by Adobe don’t hold your breath. Apple Final Cut Pro has announced support on the Mac side. Third party tools exist to transcode the video to allow any program to edit it but that is a royal pain. Both Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus and Pinnacle Studio 11 support AVCHD and even Blu-ray disc burning. Nero Ultra Edition Enhanced can process it as well. Hope this is info is useful.

 

[tangoinquestion]

<snipped>The main difference is that the MPEG-4 technology that fuels AVCHD is roughly twice as efficient as the MPEG-2 technology used in HDV.What this means is that files are 1/2 the size but retain the same high quality.<snipped>

hmmm, i was also keen on getting an hdd-based hd cam recently but abandoned this altogether after some research. judging from recent reviews of hdd-based hd cams (the good ones I came across often compared the pic quality to their tape-based counterpart, e.g. HG10 compared with the HV20), it seems that HDV is still tops in term of video quality. in most of the reviews i read, they lay the blame on AVCHD (too lazy to cite examples right now). this left me wondering why they went ahead with AVCHD when HDV gives better image quality, hmmm

 

[jaegersing]

AVCHD as implmented at the moment is not as good as HDV in terms of quality, but it has other advantages such as hard disk or flash memory storage. For people who need the convenience of HDD or flash memory, AVCHD is a good solution (of course provided they are willing to get the necessary editing software).

 

[JaPhotos]

Personnally, I felt that if you are using AVCHD for your child's party, family events, etc this type of shooting that should not be too much of a concern in regards to quality. However, if you are thinking of shooting the next blockbuster action movie...then better to stick with HDV.
Otherwise, AVCHD is still an good option to consider.

 

[kristian]

Plus the new AVCHD cameras shoot at 1920x1080, not 1440x1080.

 

[jaegersing]

Plus the new AVCHD cameras shoot at 1920x1080, not 1440x1080.

Not all AVCHD cameras have 1920x1080 sensors, they use interpolation and call it pixel-shift (HDV cams do this also). And some of these sensors are so tiny the low light performance is really poor. Don't buy based on numbers alone.

 

[kristian]

Not all AVCHD cameras have 1920x1080 sensors, they use interpolation and call it pixel-shift (HDV cams do this also). And some of these sensors are so tiny the low light performance is really poor. Don't buy based on numbers alone.

Thanks. I stand corrected.