LeoDaddy
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Haha.. No bruises! Coz 1st of all, I wear full suit. 2nd of all, I try not to touch anything when take photo. Knee only touch seabed if it's sandy bottom.
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Haha.. No bruises! Coz 1st of all, I wear full suit. 2nd of all, I try not to touch anything when take photo. Knee only touch seabed if it's sandy bottom.
liquidforce
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I prefer to one shot one kill... :bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:
probably for practice shoot 15mins is ok (cept if you are one of the blinded nudis).. but if you go lembeh, you'll miss out a lot of things!!
how many strobes u using?
only 1 shot, the nudi not well-cooked leh..
muz spend a bit more time and effort, juz like u would with dishes.. ;p
LeoDaddy
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haha.. usually 2 or 3 shots for me, but that particular shot was really difficult. Cannot light up details of the black frogfish without overexposing the rest.. try till giveup. :bsmilie:
Did you try manual mode ?? Increase Shutter Speed or Aperture..... decrease Strobe output ?? :bsmilie:
LeoDaddy
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I tried everything.. the fish just appear black with some dark orange spots.. cannot see details unless background is overexposed. I guess color of the fish is just too dark. :dunno:
GRbenji
New Member
ND filter for underwater? ND filter for macro? (he is shooting frogfish). And how is he going to mount the filter on a PNS?
ANW, how is a ND filter gonna know how to differentiate subject and BG?
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Err.... do you even know what you are talking about ?? :think:
Neutral Density Filters (aka... ND filters) are used to reduces/modifies the intensity light. Its main use is in Landscape Photography. Like GRbenji said...... no one I know of, use ND filters underwater.... where the problem is not enough light in the 1st place. While I heard about WetLenses that either give a Close-Up or Wide Angle effect, even RED filters that try to add colors into an overly 'BLUE' photo.... Never have I heard of using ND Filters.
LeoDaddy's problem is in shooting a very small and dark subject. While I'm not sure how he took the shot.... I kind of think he push the camera a little too close (trying to enlarge the subject), therefore overexposed it.... (LeoDaddy could you confirm :think: ). Sadly... there's no way we can 'Redo' the shoot till we find out how to do it. But I think LeoDaddy could try Exposure Compensation by adjusting the EV of the camera.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_compensation - Read "Adjustment for lighting distribution" (they use White Horse and Black Horse as example :bsmilie: )
Yup.... looks like a Exposure Compensation issue. The camera knows you are focusing on a dark subject... and over compensated on the surrounding (overexposed). :think:
liquidforce
Member
EC won't really be that big an issue if you've manual settings
Hmmmm.. in such cases, I'll go for a high shutter (1/250 and above), small aperture (F/16 or whatever's max on your cam) and "cook" the froggie with high strobe power!
typically for high contrast shots like that, i'll try to position the strobe overhead and slightly behind (I'm using one) but if you got 2 strobe, can try angling from both sides.
just a theory.. gotta find myself a nice black froggie to test :bsmilie:
I think LeoDaddy only have a single strobe.... therefore, limited position he could place it. :think:
IMHO, I think EC could still help.... But without another black froggie to test.... hard to solve this issue :sweat:
SnapperJohn
New Member
Hey.. take it easy guys. This is the fish I was trying to shoot. OK, I know lighting angle is not ideal, but thats not the point here. I simply cannot balance the scene, I think i need a snoot. ;p
lol, this is the most frightened froggie in tioman......mini celebrity.....;p
LeoDaddy
Member
Actually this is like the 20th shot already. Earlier shots you see just a black 'stuff' there, cannot even tell its a frog fish. By the time I took this shot, I have the strobe just outside camera's fov, very close, directly over the fish at very high power and shot at f8 (smallest aperture on my cam).
Yes, I have only 1 strobe and this little black froggie is a Kapalai citizen.
Yes, I have only 1 strobe and this little black froggie is a Kapalai citizen.
Actually this is like the 20th shot already. Earlier shots you see just a black 'stuff' there, cannot even tell its a frog fish. By the time I took this shot, I have the strobe just outside camera's fov, very close, directly over the fish at very high power and shot at f8 (smallest aperture on my cam).
Yes, I have only 1 strobe and this little black froggie is a Kapalai citizen.
Hahaha.... so not Tioman but East Malaysian :bsmilie:
SnapperJohn
New Member
Actually this is like the 20th shot already. Earlier shots you see just a black 'stuff' there, cannot even tell its a frog fish. By the time I took this shot, I have the strobe just outside camera's fov, very close, directly over the fish at very high power and shot at f8 (smallest aperture on my cam).
Yes, I have only 1 strobe and this little black froggie is a Kapalai citizen.
lol, paiseh, i tot this looks like its cousin from Tioman (the newly found one)....
liquidforce
Member
Wah.. what are we waiting for?? time to pack our strobes/cams and rush to tioman for a UWCS black froggy "cooking" session!!! gotta test all our theories in the spirit of learning right? :bsmilie:
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