Yes, I measured the poles of the hut, not the horizon. If you are talking about horizon, yes, it is tilted... To me, it should be the verticals of the hut, not the horizon...
[Ghaz1] Very Basic Photography Series #1 - Bedok Reservoir Shoot (Photo)
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Yes, I measured the poles of the hut, not the horizon. If you are talking about horizon, yes, it is tilted... To me, it should be the verticals of the hut, not the horizon...
wildcat
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Err... pardon my noobness, but what's the difference? If the poles of the hut is straightened, then the horizon will also be straight (unless the hut is tilting which I don't think is the case here).
Erm, I am not an expert either, but from what I learned from Bertz (bro daredevil123) http://darthbertz.blogspot.com/2010/06/leveling-horizon-in-complex.html, I will choose the RED line as my basis to determine if a photo is tilted.
So, in this case, it is only 0.31degrees out... Correct me if I am wrong, bro Bertz (if you are reading this).
Yilin, hope you don't mind that I "scribbled" on your masterpiece. If you do mind, let me know, I will remove it immediately.
wildcat
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Oh okay. Sorry, I guess I'm using different lines. I added the ones in blue, one degree clockwise both horizontally and vertically.
I guess this is highly debatable, so I won't indulge in this any further, and leave it to the viewer to decide for themselves... :bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
wildcat
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Maybe both are correct? But personally, i went for the blue lines to determine my horizontals. Anyway, i asked DD123 to help out. He should be here soon.
And before I forget... to thank Dleugene many many for "borrow" me his spirit leveller. :sweat:
Don't let Kit find out I didn't bring both my spirit levellers :cry:
Personally, I wouldn't trust my eyes to determine horizontals, especially when there is no clear cut horizon line, and the blue line I drew is just a guesstimate based on assumptions that there are no other issues - and not a line I would use for alignment. The alignments I would use are
1. the hut (but it could be slanted)
2. the buildings on the horizon (but it could be too small for a vertical comparison, but yes... I do correct based on those if possible).
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Ghaz1
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I use the waterline coz the shelter may be on sloping ground. :think:
wildcat
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That's right! The shelter may be on sloping ground, thus the shelter may not be vertical. But the "waterline" is actually based on the shape of the reservoir. You probably can use that if it's a nice straight curve (????? what did I just say? straight curve?), but it could still be very subjective. In Singapore, even when I take out to the sea, the "horizon line" can be very subjective if there's an island or country beyond it and the shoreline is not straight.
Only things I normally trust are vertical solid buildings. And a straight spirit leveller (this can be subjective to manufacturing variances, and we had spent time trying to figure out why something doesn't look straight when the leveller says it is).
Ok. I looked at the pavilion picture... it is tilted to the right, but very little, around 1 degree.
It may look much more tilted because the water edge of the reservoir is not perpendicular to the direction of the camera angle. Also the buildings are no help because the ones on the left are nearer, and they are of different height.
Another issue, there seems to be a little keystone (perspective) distortion as well and that was not taken care of properly... that made the outer pillars (especially the big one on the left) lean in, making the picture look more tilted that it is.
So, it is tilted, but only a little. But the way the composition is done, and the keystone distortion, made the whole picture looked a lot more tilted than it is. The way to fix this picture, is actually to shoot it much wider. So some of that effect is minimized.
Good to see so many of you are becoming verticals police... Will become good lanscape and building photographers... but also, remember to take it easy a bit... after all, it is just a picture. Well done folks... keep up the good work.
It may look much more tilted because the water edge of the reservoir is not perpendicular to the direction of the camera angle. Also the buildings are no help because the ones on the left are nearer, and they are of different height.
Another issue, there seems to be a little keystone (perspective) distortion as well and that was not taken care of properly... that made the outer pillars (especially the big one on the left) lean in, making the picture look more tilted that it is.
So, it is tilted, but only a little. But the way the composition is done, and the keystone distortion, made the whole picture looked a lot more tilted than it is. The way to fix this picture, is actually to shoot it much wider. So some of that effect is minimized.
Good to see so many of you are becoming verticals police... Will become good lanscape and building photographers... but also, remember to take it easy a bit... after all, it is just a picture. Well done folks... keep up the good work.
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Thanks to Ghaz1 for organizing the event. These are some of my shots from the outing. It is a wonderful scene to view the sun rising over the sky and shining down onto the reservoir.
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#2
#3 First attempt on silhouette photography
#4
Looking toward more outings.
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#2
#3 First attempt on silhouette photography
#4
Looking toward more outings.
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Firstly I want to thank Ghaz1 for organizing this outing. It's a fruitfull outing for me and it's definitely worth all the trouble (wake up in the middle of the night 
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Want to share some or my photos. First time using UWA, still don't know how to use it properly.
C&C are most welcome
#1 - Before Sunrise 1
What do you think about the branches on top of the image, is it produce a nice framing or just disturbing?
#2 - Before Sunrise 2
Same angle without the branches
)Want to share some or my photos. First time using UWA, still don't know how to use it properly.
C&C are most welcome
#1 - Before Sunrise 1
What do you think about the branches on top of the image, is it produce a nice framing or just disturbing?
#2 - Before Sunrise 2
Same angle without the branches
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#3 - Sunrise
#4 - Shelter
#5 - Taichi Master
#6 - Couple's Bench
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#4 - Shelter
#5 - Taichi Master
#6 - Couple's Bench
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Ghaz1
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Firstly I want to thank Ghaz1 for organizing this outing. It's a fruitfull outing for me and it's definitely worth all the trouble (wake up in the middle of the night
#1 - Before Sunrise 1
What do you think about the branches on top of the image, is it produce a nice framing or just disturbing?
Nice framing, but i think with such a wonderful sky, it would be a shame to hide it.
I also like the Taichi Master. If only those people on the right weren't there, it would be perfect! I like the way you included the tree to frame the man.
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Ghaz1
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Thanks to Ghaz1 for organizing the event. These are some of my shots from the outing. It is a wonderful scene to view the sun rising over the sky and shining down onto the reservoir.
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Looking toward more outings.
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Thanks to Ghaz1 for organizing the event. These are some of my shots from the outing. It is a wonderful scene to view the sun rising over the sky and shining down onto the reservoir.
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Looking toward more outings.
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Ghaz1: Great job. I will definitely join you for the next shoot. I have never been there to shoot early in the morning before. Got to try my hands on a new place. :angel:
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Thanks to Ghaz1 for organizing the event. These are some of my shots from the outing. It is a wonderful scene to view the sun rising over the sky and shining down onto the reservoir.
#3 First attempt on silhouette photography
#4
Looking toward more outings.
#3 photo erm...juz need to have the shadows and it would be perfect..
while #4 lookout for the flare at the right hand corner.. ^^
gd job.. keep on practicing you will be good in no time. :thumbsup:
yilin
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Oh no my bad to post such a tilted picture :sweat:
I have been trying very hard to straigten it , but somehow it just look tilted.
Will try to shoot with wider angle next time
Any other bros with station 2 picture??
I have been trying very hard to straigten it , but somehow it just look tilted.
Will try to shoot with wider angle next time
Any other bros with station 2 picture??
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