fraudulent withdrawal yesterday on my POSB card

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May be you may want to report your case to the media to warn other that the fraudulent/unauthorized withdrawal is still going on despite some were caught.

Did not see Dbs making any announcement on this........

I am sure many lost their money due to this. yes, no annocement in the press. I think DBS is doing their best to tighten up their security. Meanwhile those using old cards, be more careful. I have actually received a new card but have not activate it. Now its done..

Public can help to play a role in crime prevention... help to look out for suspicious character, if we could understand how they operate or type of device used.


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[otc]

Maybe the ATM has been "hack" and so, your pin number and card informations been "stolen". Then it was accessed from another location. Btw, what the heck is the CCTV doing? When that timing which TS $ been withdraw and by who, should have recorded down!

I am keen on this information if it can be revealed to mbusye as I am the party involved. how, why and when and where...? Nobody contacted me at all, just money replace back to my account.

Bugis is a busy shopping area and it occured there. Looks like it occured to places where there are lots of withdrawal and security is not too tight. This will likely to occur again before you have a replacement of a new dbs card.

The master mind is likely to be an IT wizard. Those that are on the road are runners, imho.


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[TAYKT]

The cctv for show nia..also no one really watching on the screen 24hrs..The only time the CCTV is useful is when someone report a case of fraud then they start to look at it.. Btw pls dun expect the same service like the casino where every minute their CCTV got Security ppl looking at it..

 

[iguanavon]

Take a look at this... It's this easy to get your atm card info...

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[ricohflex]

Some possibilities.

• Inside job

• When you pay using Nets the cashier swiped your card. They got hidden spy cam recording your PIN entry.

Our legislation is too weak.
For the syndicate and fraudsters, it is worth trying because they already know:

• Best case scenario

• Likely scenario

• Worst case scenario

Almost like PERT - a Program, Evaluation, and Review Technique analysis, originally used to project manage the creation of the USA Polaris missile system.

• Best case scenario - become instant multi-millionaire

• Likely scenario - make few hundred thousand Sing$ fast

• Worst case scenario - arrested and very light sentence, out of jail in short time to repeat crime; or maybe even no jail if got smart lawyer

The first defense is powerful deterrence.
Our Singaporean bank accounts cannot be on open hunting season whole year round by fraudsters.
Impose a death sentence for ATM-skimming and actually hang a few of the arrested fraudsters; if you want this threat to go away.

After the death penalty, the other fraudsters will still be there. But they would have learned to pick other softer targets, such as other countries that do not have heavy penalty.
If not death penalty, then at least 24 strokes of the cane + 50 years jail.

 

[adamadam]

http://www.commbank.com.au/personal/apply-online/download-printed-forms/ATM_awareness_guide.pdf
This is how they do it sometimes

Or also at Mcdonalds (I think they go around posing as repairpersons and 'fix' the EFTPOS machines.

 

[ricohflex]

This story appeared about 11pm on 23 Feb 2012.

DBS hit by ATM fraud again

 

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Yes, I saw the news announcement last night. I was one of the victim. I had acutually received a new go card a week ago but has about to activate it but somehow it was locked. Guess DBS knew on my card being at risk but by then, 2K gone. Hmmm...

Still I have not gone over to Bugis area for a long time, at least 6 months to a yr. So which other location, is the target... just curious.

thanks again for those who contributed here.

Now I need to withdraw most of my money out.

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[chnews]

Hi im from the media, Ive just sent you a private message, mind if you can give me a call asap? thanks.

 

[ricohflex]

What if.... the aggregate amount stolen from any bank (total stolen from all affected account holders) was a lot more?
Can any bank afford to (lose so much money) and top up the account holders' bank account within 24 hours? Should it do so?

 

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I was directed to contact a reporter but she was fast and contacted me and have an interview a few hours ago. I was featured in channel 8 9 pm or channel u 11 pm on issue of fraudulent withdrawal.

Yes, I am a little paranoid after this incident and have not done any withdrawal so far from that day of occurence.


marcus

 

[AwfulChoc]

so your bank only got 2k? keke

 

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The first defense is powerful deterrence.
Our Singaporean bank accounts cannot be on open hunting season whole year round by fraudsters.
Impose a death sentence for ATM-skimming and actually hang a few of the arrested fraudsters; if you want this threat to go away.

Someone's rumbling pointlessly away with his absurd nonsense again...

 

[9V-Orion Images]

so your bank only got 2k? keke

That's the maximum amount that someone can withdraw from an ATM per day.

 

[AwfulChoc]

That's the maximum amount that someone can withdraw from an ATM per day.

oh, didn't know. thanks

 

[Quest]

Consider what will happen if the amount stolen is not $23,000 or $1 Million.
What if.... the amount stolen was $900 Million?
Can any bank afford to top up the account holders' bank account within 24 hours? Should it do so?

Singapore should not just brush this matter aside and say - no issue, cheated account holders have been compensated.

Never ever link your life savings to any ATM or internet banking. The risk is too big.

ATM or internet link accounts should preferably be limited to only a few months of your petty cash expenses. Should your money disappear in this petty cash a/c, the effect should be only a pinch to you, not a deadly punch.

 

[ricohflex]

Perhaps the authorities can consider all angles.

Why is DBS being persistently targeted when there are so many other banks in Singapore?

It cannot be that DBS's security measures are far below other banks.

It cannot be that DBS's account holders are all exceptionally careless with their ATM cards and PIN when compared with account holders of other banks.

It is common knowledge that DBS is representative of Singapore's national bank.

If the confidence in our national bank is shaken with constant ATM skimming attacks, that's not good.

Just as the Pentagon warns others against cyber attacks on US organisations, we need to look at this again.
Is it just a simple theft? Who is behind it?

If concluded that it is another form of financial terrorism against our country, then it should be dealt with in the harshest possible terms applying anti-terrorism laws on the perpetrators.

 

[qystan]

I was directed to contact a reporter but she was fast and contacted me and have an interview a few hours ago. I was featured in channel 8 9 pm or channel u 11 pm on issue of fraudulent withdrawal.

marcus

Why were you 'directed'? You're under their control or answerable to them?

Do you realized they've made use of you to do their work?

 

[kei1309]

i had $310 credited into my account. for what reasons i don't know. no messages either

 

[otc]

Hi im from the media, Ive just sent you a private message, mind if you can give me a call asap? thanks.

Why were you 'directed'? You're under their control or answerable to them?

Do you realized they've made use of you to do their work?

Yes, the reporter got hold of my number and called me. I decided to meet her and have that short interview. I AM GLAD I DID.

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