First IR attempt with a cheap chinese 850nm filter


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wwooaahh

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I bought a cheap chinese IR 850nm filter from ebay to try out. I think it was a bad choice, because the pictures had no colors (look like black and white). Maybe I should have bought the 720nm one or R72. Just share a few photos taken at Chinese garden. C&C are greatly welcome.

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Hi, actually there is nothing wrong with your purchase and usage of 850nm IR filter. Nice black and white IR photos you've got here :)

The 850nm Chinese-made IR filter is considered strong as it blocks out all available lights except IR thus you captured "PURE" infrared lights and therefore you get only monochrome photos.

(The following info below is extracted from http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=32950434)

The IR filters fall into those same three categories:

1.) Strong filters include the Lee 87, Tiffen 87, Wratten 87 (indeed, anything with "87" in its name), the Hoya RM90, B+W 093, and Heliopan 5780, 5830, and 5850. These filters don't even begin to transmit light until you're in the "real" infrared at 740nm or so, and don't reach maximum transmission until someplace over 800nm. So, they all require a "broken" or "weak" filter camera. The IR results are pretty much monochrome, because the camera's red, green, and blue filters have all failed at IR wavelengths and are all passing IR.

2.) Weak filters include the Hoya R72, Heliopan 5715 filters, and the original Kodak Wratten 89B (and hopefully, the Cokin 007, a Wratten 89B "clone"). They only begin transmitting noticeable light around 700nm, are up to 50% at 715nm or 720nm, and don't reach 90% until around 740nm. Because a camera's red filter passes more light in the 700-720nm range than the green or blue filters do, you get "false color", with some deep BVR (barely visible red) contributing to the red channel, while the green and blue get "pure" infrared.

3.) Broken filters include the B+W 092 and (apparently) the new Singh-Ray I-Ray. They start passing light down around 650nm, reach 50% by 695, and 90% by 720. That means that on cameras with good IR cut filters, what you get is a little "blip" of BVR from 680-700nm, where the camera's response and the filter's response overlap. BVR filters only produce something that looks like a "real" IR picture on a "broken" camera, or a camera that has been modified for IR. They work great on IR film. On a camera with a strong filter, they produce so much stronger BVR response in the red channel that you can't get good "false color". Your only choices are totally blow the red channel and extract your IR from the green and blue channels, or expose the red channel properly and "settle" for a BVR image.
 

@SurrealDreamWalker: Thanks for all the info. I think I'll get a 720nm filter, haha. Black and white also looks alright but it can't get the color effect shown in other posts.
 

#1 has a nice dreamy effect..how long was the exposure?
 

I actually really like the soft effect this filter gave your pictures.
 

wow thats a long exposure...thanks TS
 

Thanks. These were my first and last pictures with the filter. I already sold it to a nice gentleman and going to purchase a 720nm filter because I would like to get some colors. I think the soft effect is due to my camera shaking under the wind, not because of the filter. I have a lousy tripod :D
I actually really like the soft effect this filter gave your pictures.



Yah, because the filter filters out so much light.
wow thats a long exposure...thanks TS
 

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