In the last two posts, those have been incidents where someone has been victimized. Homosexuality is an act by two consenting adults. It is 'victimless'.
If 80% of Germans want to send all Jews to the concentration camps, I guess its ok since it is the majority's wish?
just some random musings, don't mind me.
Sometimes the majority does not necessary mean that it is right. Sometimes people join in just because they are afraid of not being in line or not conforming.
Examples:
Germany sending Jews, Russians, Ukranians, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Disabled to their deaths during World War 2. Many of those living near the concentration camps chose to turn a blind eye so that they will belong to the majority and not the minority which will get them executed by the Nazi party.
Japan going to war and committing atrocities against the Chinese and Koreans and even though there were Japanese that opposed the war, they were summarily executed as enemies of the State and the "minority"
A large group of Christians during WW2 that felt that the Jews deserved to die for their "sins" in putting Christ to death. (Even though it is written in the scripture, Christ said "forgive them for they know not what they do"
In more recent years. American going to war against Iraq or should I say invade Iraq. Again as an American you better be the majority and support the war. If not u might be labeled unpatriotic or worse if you are a Muslim, you might be marked as a potential terrorist. Remember Bush's infamous line? You are either for us or against us.
The movie Jesus Camp in which hardline Christians in the USA were training kids to grow up and "fight and die" for Jesus. The camp leader said this "there is only 2 types of people, those that love and those that don't" Guess what happens to those who don't love Jesus?
Hardline Muslims who believe that it is right to bomb and kill in the name of Allah. An example would be the Taliban who ruled Afghanistan, when they were ruling, they did a lot of things too that was supposedly supported by the majority. Things like beheading and stoning people that didn't agree with them.
The Vietnam war, during the infamous My Lai massacre where an company of American troops moved in and massacred an entire village of Vietnamese suspecting them to be communist.
So after all the above examples, is it still safe to say majority is always right?
I for all am very glad, there was a MINORITY that stood up against the "80" percent or whatever that percent that constitute the majority. The American helicopter pilot that landed his copter and told his gunner to shoot any American that wanted to cross the line and shoot the Vietnamese civilians, the many unnamed and unsung people who hid "enemies" of the Nazi state in their homes and in many cases were executed themselves.
So would you say these Minorities or the Majorities were the right ones?
likewise, when someone say, disowning their sons if they're ... , it doesn't mean they will do that. it's a a statement that highlight their sentiment against this topic!
I think you misunderstood Kusum Kangguru; he was actually implying that being in the majority doesn't automatically make you correct.
Sometimes the majority does not necessary mean that it is right. Sometimes people join in just because they are afraid of not being in line or not conforming.
Examples:
Germany sending Jews, Russians, Ukranians, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Disabled to their deaths during World War 2. Many of those living near the concentration camps chose to turn a blind eye so that they will belong to the majority and not the minority which will get them executed by the Nazi party.
Japan going to war and committing atrocities against the Chinese and Koreans and even though there were Japanese that opposed the war, they were summarily executed as enemies of the State and the "minority"
A large group of Christians during WW2 that felt that the Jews deserved to die for their "sins" in putting Christ to death. (Even though it is written in the scripture, Christ said "forgive them for they know not what they do"
In more recent years. American going to war against Iraq or should I say invade Iraq. Again as an American you better be the majority and support the war. If not u might be labeled unpatriotic or worse if you are a Muslim, you might be marked as a potential terrorist. Remember Bush's infamous line? You are either for us or against us.
The movie Jesus Camp in which hardline Christians in the USA were training kids to grow up and "fight and die" for Jesus. The camp leader said this "there is only 2 types of people, those that love and those that don't" Guess what happens to those who don't love Jesus?
Hardline Muslims who believe that it is right to bomb and kill in the name of Allah. An example would be the Taliban who ruled Afghanistan, when they were ruling, they did a lot of things too that was supposedly supported by the majority. Things like beheading and stoning people that didn't agree with them.
The Vietnam war, during the infamous My Lai massacre where an company of American troops moved in and massacred an entire village of Vietnamese suspecting them to be communist.
So after all the above examples, is it still safe to say majority is always right?
I for all am very glad, there was a MINORITY that stood up against the "80" percent or whatever that percent that constitute the majority. The American helicopter pilot that landed his copter and told his gunner to shoot any American that wanted to cross the line and shoot the Vietnamese civilians, the many unnamed and unsung people who hid "enemies" of the Nazi state in their homes and in many cases were executed themselves.
So would you say these Minorities or the Majorities were the right ones?
my apologies for not making it clear. I understand his point. I was actually linking to support his statement that being in the majority doesn't mean you are right as history has shown.
Dudes, consider this:
The percentage of homosexuals is max about 7% of any given population. Singapore's likely to be lower. Yet last year in Singapore, of all new cases of aids transmitted through sexual intercourse, 1/3 are from homosexual intercourse.
What does this say about the sexual lifestyle of homosexuals?
Dudes, consider this:
The percentage of homosexuals is max about 7% of any given population. Singapore's likely to be lower. Yet last year in Singapore, of all new cases of aids transmitted through sexual intercourse, 1/3 are from homosexual intercourse.
What does this say about the sexual lifestyle of homosexuals?
firstly, i question your figures
what makes you so certain that it is "max 7%" of any given population; and please quote sources when you use figures, else i can pull figures out of my butthole too.
secondly; even if what you say is true, my next question is: so what?
As for your 2nd qn, nightmare, oh i don't know.
I mean, if you take up 7% of the population, you should account for 7% the relative infection rate, but the fact is if your relative infection rate is over 4 times that, well....what do you think we should do?
:think: i'm not going to contribute to the debate, but i'm sorry, in academic and even business research, wikipedia does NOT constitute a credible source of information.
Using '07 figures:
130 got infected through homosexual intercourse.
255 got infected through heterosexual intercourse.
15 got infected through bixsexual intercourse.
:bsmilie::bsmilie:
Dude, firstly 7% is from wiki. It quoted 2%-7%.
The 1/3 is a rough estimate from moh website. Go verify the sources yourself.
@aeskywan
i never said HIV is a gay disease. This never crossed my mind until you said it. I merely quoted figures from sources that are reasonably reliable.