"So how did you apply this criteria to the blue canvas and claim it had emotional impact since you'd never seen it in real life either? Also, you accept Anne Sophie Mutter's views as your own? Let's say I accept Steve Hyne's views as my own since I respect him as a photorgapher as well."
Like I've indicated in 2 seperate posts before, I have viewed similar works by Rothko and such that I am not prepared to discount the possibility that others have such a response. I think Rothko's similar works qualify as art, though they have 2 colours (sometimes even 3 or more!) which is twice as many as Klein.
But lets say, you actually see a Klein, and you think its not art. Someone else sees a Klein and says that it is art because he experiences a psychological/emotional reaction to it and declares that it is art.
In this situation A says its Art, B says its not art.
You imply in your posts that 'only one person is right'. The blue canvas is 'art' or 'not 'art'.
which brings us to:
"No but you've not shown why the blue canvas has got emotional impact like I was asking. I'm disagreeing because you have yet to show your case. Because, as I stated before, pieces aren't masterpieces until taken apart, they're ordinary until someone identifies them as special."
I suggest that the emotional reaction is a sufficient condition for declaring something art. In effect, it is a subjectivist standpoint. But it is not a purely individualistic subjectivism. In general, when enough people have similar reactions, it is recognised socially as art ("Human beings are poised between 2 domains... the personal and the social...")
The Klein going for 6.5k is suppose is implicit acceptance of the social recognition of his work as art (which starts from the basis of an initial individual psychological/emotional reaction)
On that basis, it is art.
"As above. Forget I said it's rubbish, that's a strong word after the flames started getting hot. But I'm asking for someone to show me why it's good and in the absence of that, then the assumption is that it's not good. And the question after that is, even if you do show this emotional impact of yours... does your opinion have universal applicability?"
Having discard the term 'rubbish', you're wavering between the term 'good' and 'art'.
You have made up your mind subjectively that the Klein is 'not art', 'not good' etc. Is it a requirement that I prove to every single person who thinks that the Klein is not art that it is art?
According to the criteria that I have set out, I do not need to do that.
Having said that, why do you resist telling us why you don't think the Klein is 'art'? Perhaps because the reasons are entirely subjective (and therefore no superior than those of people who think that the Klein is 'art'?) Which is why a social, contextual analysis is required - if society recognises it as art (i.e. not just 1 person, but several people having a reaction to it...)
And when I say an individual emotional reaction etc... this deals with the criticism that a person is being told it is art (the emperors new clothes phenomenon.. i require a reaction from the individual (it is not a purely social definition)
i am merely arguing for the right for others to call a blue canvas art. whether i agree it is art, is something that has to be decided by viewing the canvas.
over to you