In the end... this still sadly turns out to be a debate of digital vs film .. sigh...
aiya... best of all, u figure out how u want your budge to work for you; and THEN decide what u want to do with it.
Do take some of the ppl's opinions with a pinch of salt though... film cameras though dropping in price, will NEVER drop as drastically as digital.
Yeah.. A85 or A60 or whatever other canon models that are out now are around 600$ or thereabouts. In 1 yrs time, u won't even be able to sell it for slightly less than half? in 2 yrs time, ppl will laugh at u if u want to sell it. Film Manual, like some of the better ones, will always command at least a reasonable price in the market, eg: fm2, etc etc.... that's one thing to think about.
As Taku1a said:
" Trust me. Even if your son gets a AE1 to start photography now, he will still want to upgrade. The way camera and lens manufacturer do business nowadays are much much different from 30 years ago. And Canon probably more so than Nikon.
The last thing Canon want is a customer who buys a camera and a 50mm prime and use them for 30 years. So it's a new version of the same lens and camera every other year. Not even manual camera users are impervious to such temptations."
Well my response to this is, hey... a majority of us are STILL using the same cameras from whence the vietnam war was still brewing. Nikon seems to be relying on this tradition to gain back its customers, most of which belong to the older age group here in northern california. Canon itself is fast following this path too with their digital technology, but hey... it's digital.. what's out today will be dead eventually down the road.
And i also beg to differ on the generalization of manual cam users and their temptations... Hey... impt thing about photography. BUY/USE what you NEED. I raised up my 2 kids till uni relying on my Leica M, and Nikon F to do my job for me for the past donno how long. Yeah.. technology did change, and temptations did arise.. but never saw the need for them. Pt is.. if u're comfortable with what you have, and it does the job... USE IT.
Whereas if you're keeping up with the generation in singapore that simply upgrades due to the technology train, or "temptations" caused by people hanging around the camera stores with their 5k plus 1ds, (dslrs) then nothing to say lor....
And Yes, Canon and Nikon Do indeed want customers who get their equipment and shoot it for 30 yrs... why? Hey... it breeds consumer loyalty which will NEVER affect sales. On the contrary, it would infact zap the prices up of that product if lots of ppl use it for 30 > yrs. Good examples are the Contax RTS bodies, and zeiss lenses, or even the leica Ms... still being used after soooooooo long, BUT, price? upppppppp :nono:
Lots of ppl here are giving u advice based on their personal shooting experience. so, it is good to read their but most importantly to be discerning of what they're trying to say, as one man's cup of tea can be another's poison.
My advice is based on what my father, and my university lecturer, passed on to me when i was a child (graflexes 4x5) and later, when i was doing my degree in journ. It's not the best as there are other excellent photographers here that are more up to date on today's technology. Instead, it's rather old school, and postdated for some... just to "warn" you first hor.
So... go with what u feel is good for u, what u feel most comfortable with.
Once again... Good luck! :thumbsup: