hi, please read first post.
this is not photographic group, we are a bunch of friends who like to chit chat. we do shoot sunset and sunrise now and then, recently more regularly cos is holiday season.
if you are joining just to tag along, maybe want bodyguards in the wee hours of the morning, want driver, want people to tell you your photos are nice, maybe this is the wrong group for you.
if you are joining with an open heart, you want to know the people here better, you are welcome. just read the first post, like i said, and go on from there. usually people who are of this group will continue to be happy to go out with us. if you are of the former group in the previous paragraph, sorry to say, we are not very nice people, there is no desire to make this a big big group so shoot model cheaper, big big group so that some people can be teachers, can produce students all over the place... so you will somehow not feel so happy and you will leave. so if you are of former group, my suggestion is not to join.
hope this helps.
btw, don't need to make (in my opinion) what is a very silly and slightly rude comment like "diao", and ignore requests to see first post. it is that hard to post your photograph? then you have to think about why. cheers.