EOS M: M for Mirrorless

[giantcanopy]

it doesnt really make sense to use my EF lenses on the EOS-M, simply because the lenses are too big.

Yup agree on that.

But if specifications are competitive, it will also mean existing EOS users will less likely get other mirrorless brands but remain in the Canon umbrella from the likely mount compatibility.

one word... UGLY!

With all the current mirrorless competitors adorning refreshing designs , this leaked Canon image certainly pales out a little in the cosmetic department. Lets hope for great functionalities.

 

[esoeij]

With an apsc sensor, will it suffer from the same issue with the Sony NEX system, e.g. Small form factor for body but disproportionately large lenses.

 

[yrh0413]

With an apsc sensor, will it suffer from the same issue with the Sony NEX system, e.g. Small form factor for body but disproportionately large lenses.

I guess it depends on lens design... The x-pro1 has an APS-C sensor but the lenses are small; but it looks proportionate on the x-pro1 due to its bigger camera body.

 

[ricohflex]

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[JW73]

I guess it depends on lens design... The x-pro1 has an APS-C sensor but the lenses are small; but it looks proportionate on the x-pro1 due to its bigger camera body.

It's because x-pro 1 lens at this moment are all fixed focal lens. The zoom lens which they are coming out soon will be larger.

 

[JW73]

I guess it depends on lens design... The x-pro1 has an APS-C sensor but the lenses are small; but it looks proportionate on the x-pro1 due to its bigger camera body.

It's because x-pro 1 lens at this moment are all fixed focal lens. The zoom lens which they are coming out soon will be larger.

 

[Prismatic]

I don't see any wheels or dials for aperture/shutter control. That's a big turn-off for me.

 

[wedgehammer]

It's because x-pro 1 lens at this moment are all fixed focal lens. The zoom lens which they are coming out soon will be larger.

but for nex, even prime lenses (except the pancake) are disproportionately larger compared to the nex bodies

 

[NazgulKing]

That camera is a joke. Canon is likely to only release a small set of lenses, and if they release any super telephotos, good luck to hand holding them.

 

[raydio]

I just don't get mirrorless.... If one has a DSLR and a point and shoot, where does mirrorless fit in?... or is mirrorless for those people who don't want to carry such a large heavy camera around (DSLR) but still want the opportunity to change lenses? Even so, would mirrorless be able to match the specs of a DSLR, ie. 6-8 frames per second, large buffer, etc.

 

[SCULDER]

I just don't get mirrorless.... If one has a DSLR and a point and shoot, where does mirrorless fit in?... or is mirrorless for those people who don't want to carry such a large heavy camera around (DSLR) but still want the opportunity to change lenses? Even so, would mirrorless be able to match the specs of a DSLR, ie. 6-8 frames per second, large buffer, etc.

Yes. For the size sake, for light traveller, senior who think DSLR is a horsework, a side kick etc.

I personally don't like carrying bulky dslr around my neck during travel. But I still need a DSLR quality.

And, yes, some mirrorless are even better than entry level. Go find some reference about NEX-7, X-PRO1, you'll be surprised.

 

[yrh0413]

If mirrorless compared against DSLRs, definitely the former does not have the fps, buffer, focusing speed, tracking speed as a DSLR. 80/20 rule, not many photographers have such requirement unless they are into sports and action photography.

Mirrorless systems like m4/3 and x-mount, they are the manufacturer's only hope to win a market place in a very saturated marketplace. They will do what it takes to ensure their product is ahead of the rest as their mirrorless system is their only bet. This is different with Canon/ Nikon/ Sony, their DSLR system is their cash cows this priority and development of new tech will always be focused on DSLRs instead of their mirrorless system.

M4/3 alone has gone a long long way... It's AF is better than entry level DSLRs, comes with weather-sealed body and lenses, and they even have 24-70mm f/2.8 equiv lenses on the way. You can carry an EM-5 with 24mm f/2, 50mm f/1.4, 90mm f/1.8 plus a speedlite for the weight less than a 1DX.

 

[trd2970]

So who's buying?

I will buy if it has AF adapter for EF lenses...then can keep my 50, 85 & 100 primes

 

[esoeij]

I just don't get mirrorless.... If one has a DSLR and a point and shoot, where does mirrorless fit in?... or is mirrorless for those people who don't want to carry such a large heavy camera around (DSLR) but still want the opportunity to change lenses? Even so, would mirrorless be able to match the specs of a DSLR, ie. 6-8 frames per second, large buffer, etc.

The mirrorless fits in between! Smaller n lighter set-up vs Dslr, but not truly pocketable like a pns. But mirrorless has bigger sensor than pns. Specs wise, the top end mirrorless can match most of the Dslr specs. Biggest difference is that the continuous AF or al servo mode of mirrorless systems are not as good, perhaps with the exception of the nikon 1 system.

 

[gundamseed84]

Not everyone has a pns and dslr.. so a mirrorless comes in as a compact backup esp for those without pns. Even better if it can adpat to ef or ef-s lenses.

Or for people who wish to get interchangable system yet not want dslr size... they can opt for hybrid which is the mirrorless system.

Canon can tap its popularity as a brand to attract people new to cameras to buy its mirrorless. Need not be to fight for top in this sector but if it can deter consumers from going to other brands it is already good. Then next stage might be once ppl are in canon brand and want to upgrade to dslrs they have one more reason to follow the brand since they are comfortable with it.

Haha... dunno but i see their launch of this not too pretty mirrorless as a few stage strategy esp among the less experienced users.

 

[JW73]

but for nex, even prime lenses (except the pancake) are disproportionately larger compared to the nex bodies

That's why I never "bought" the nex concept.. They are trying to be the thinnest and smallest bodies in the market. But photography is not about that.

 

[MichaelLee]

I just don't get mirrorless.... If one has a DSLR and a point and shoot, where does mirrorless fit in?... or is mirrorless for those people who don't want to carry such a large heavy camera around (DSLR) but still want the opportunity to change lenses? Even so, would mirrorless be able to match the specs of a DSLR, ie. 6-8 frames per second, large buffer, etc.

Son nex5n has 10 fps...better than any of canon slr.

 

[NazgulKing]

I just don't get mirrorless.... If one has a DSLR and a point and shoot, where does mirrorless fit in?... or is mirrorless for those people who don't want to carry such a large heavy camera around (DSLR) but still want the opportunity to change lenses? Even so, would mirrorless be able to match the specs of a DSLR, ie. 6-8 frames per second, large buffer, etc.

Yes. Because the miniaturization technology to support this already exists. Look at the NEX7. Small, yet it has mid level DSLR features at the minimum.

A good portion of the volume in DSLRs is taken up by the mirror box and the prism. Take those away, and you get a camera that is smaller by half.

 

[yrh0413]

Son nex5n has 10 fps...better than any of canon slr.

10fps but only focus lock on the first frame, no? CDAF (as of today's technology) is not fast enough to perform rapid AF tracking.

 

[NazgulKing]

10fps but only focus lock on the first frame, no? CDAF (as of today's technology) is not fast enough to perform rapid AF tracking.

Give it time and I suspect it can do both. If I hear correctly, the latest Canon DSLR has phase detection on the sensor itself. So does the Nikon 1 series.