EOS 5D MKII club.....

[falconite]

Lets take black dot issue as a populated one to every 5DmkII ~ if the fixed firmware is out.. everyone can benefit from a upgrade...

It better to TEKAN as a group then as just one... We are all watching!!

 

[sprewell]

i recently did a night shoot with ISO set at 1600. while the image looked fine on computer, the amount of noise produced on print at 1600 is really bad.

imagine my horror when i saw all the noise.

 

[ricleo]

ha you're kidding right? any images to share? iso 1600 is so clean on my 5dmk2 i can't believe it hehe...

 

[frankchn]

i recently did a night shoot with ISO set at 1600. while the image looked fine on computer, the amount of noise produced on print at 1600 is really bad.

imagine my horror when i saw all the noise.

Doesn't seem typical. ISO1600 is very clean even at 100% crop. Noise starts showing up at ISO3200 or so but even 6400 is usable if you don't blow the picture up.

 

[simranjits]

Doesn't seem typical. ISO1600 is very clean even at 100% crop. Noise starts showing up at ISO3200 or so but even 6400 is usable if you don't blow the picture up.

He quite clearly states during print. Printing is a good test of real image quality.

 

[KHC]

i recently did a night shoot with ISO set at 1600. while the image looked fine on computer, the amount of noise produced on print at 1600 is really bad.

imagine my horror when i saw all the noise.

Hi sprewell,
Hope you can share up the nite shoot snapped by ISO1600 and a Quick snap of the printed
ISO1600 images.
It just for comparasion to see how bad it it.
Hope you don't mind share those info at here.

 

[Giorgio]

take into consideration the print size and how far back ur viewing.

 

[sprewell]

take into consideration the print size and how far back ur viewing.

magazine spread...

i'll post the images once i get the clearance to do so..

 

[shahrulesa]

Sprewel, can you check if the noise reduction is turned on and at which setting. Also, if you capture in RAW, there will be no noise processing. You need to do it manually in DPP. Also I found out that using D+ also increases the noise.

Ona different note, Finally I managed to figure out some stuff about the live view. That you can actually zoom with the + buttom and it toggles 5x, 10x and back to normal. Also, when on live view and you press the AF-ON, the mirror will flip down, do an AF at the active AF point and then flip up again, a much faster way to AF compared to using the LV phase contrast. Just thought I share.

 

[blaster]

Hi sprewell,
Hope you can share up the nite shoot snapped by ISO1600 and a Quick snap of the printed
ISO1600 images.
It just for comparasion to see how bad it it.
Hope you don't mind share those info at here.

Interested to see the photo if you don't mind. I was very pleased at the low noise level at ISO 1600. So this is surprising.

 

[sprewell]

to be fair, i set NR to standard in order to preserve details. oh well.

i should be able to post my image soon.

 

[vikhoa]

May I join?

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(5) phoakm
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(24) Kensuke
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(27) blaster
(28) Sin399
(29) frankchn (new here)
(30) ShahrulEsa
(31) lenenkie (1 post new member!)
(32) ricleo (finally got mine today 30 Dec 08)
(33) kipss (just got mine 2day ago 30Dec)
(34) vikhoa (got mine 20 Dec 08)

 

[bluesea]

after shooting movies in Live view, and also shooting photos on the 5D, i have come to conclude that it is virtually impossibly to produce good video, and shoot professional photos at the same time.

I already mentioned that way earlier when the 5d was first released and my view has obviously not changed.

No auto focus. You have to use a tripod for everything to prevent hand shake. You get blurry subjects the moment they move. And you cant follow them accurately if the camera's on the tripod.

And during all that time where you're trying to set up your camera to take that video, you're losing valuable time meant for shooting your professional shots, which means, loads of missed shots.

The only possible feasible scenario is that you have 1 photographer and 1 video grapher, and the videographer is purely using a 5d Mark II just for video purposes, which would be retarded since the 5D is mean to be a still camera in the first place.
I rest my case.

Guru,

During video, I wonder whether it is possible to set the 5D2 to "face detection mode" and press the "AF ON Button" everytime the subject moves ??

According to the website below,
"It is possible to focus a Canon EF lens manually or automatically while capturing a movie with the EOS 5D Mark II camera" but "it cannot track a subject moving towards or away from the camera"...
... therefore I understand that you will need to press the "AF ON Button" everytime you need re-focusing, right? :think:

http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2186

Although I know that 5D2 is meant primarily for still pictures, video is also important for me to film my active son. Swapping between my 450D to Video Cam and back, is tiring. :sweat:

FYI, I am considering to upgrade from my 450D to 5D2, for low noise at High ISO and also good video.

 

[FLiNcHY]

I'm getting very bad noise at 1600 as well. Look at the dark areas at 100% crop, when processing in lightroom or adobe camera raw.

 

[ricleo]

i think the sensor itself is about the same in terms of noise performance compared to the previous 5D, or perhaps just very slightly worse than the original 5D if you shoot raw due to the increased resolution of 21mp.

For me, i shoot jpeg, and the incamera noise reduction set at standard, works brilliantly to remove any noise and yet retain detail. I'm not sure what type of NR settings u use in ACR or Lightroom, but maybe it isn't tailored for the 5D mk2 files yet.

i'm just too lazy for raw, and out of camera jpegs from the 5d2 is excellent!

Flinchy, any samples to see? also, if there is underexposure of the image, there will be increased noise of course when compared to good exposures.

 

[archlover]

so far satisfied with the high iso performance, my only concern is the vertical banding problem.
i know it's only happen in sRAW1 ( the 10mbpx one ) but before i think sRAW1 is the most suitable for my need.. ( since 21mbpx is too big for my need, and the 5.5mbpx sRAW2 is too small )

the vertical banding can be seen quite obvious at the shadow area :| even i resize the picture until 800x533... i hope canon can solve this problem fast then i can die happy...

sample picture :

see at top left area... quite obvious right...

 

[rendition]

Ehhh, can someone share what banding is. I've never understood and quit googling.

Is it some rough gradation of colour? Like the blue near the cloulds on the left? Or am I seeing things...

 

[lkkang]

sample picture :

see at top left area... quite obvious right...

beautifully captured :thumbsup:

 

[FLiNcHY]

Can someone please explain to me this. Previously i had thought that shooting RAW would mean that i would have complete control over white balance, exposure etc etc.

But guess what?? i opened up lightroom one day and decided to try it with Jpegs and WOW, i could adjust my jpegs with the exact same settings as RAW! white balance, exposure, shadows and all could be tweaked to my liking.

Which now brings me to the point of shooting raw vs jpeg, because i have always been a staunch supporter of shooting in RAW because of the above mentioned advantages, which now don't seem like much anymore.

That coupled with the fact that Jpeg images are significantly less noisy and smaller in size, is making shooting Jpeg a better proposition.

I know that RAW is lossless blah blah blah, must convert to tiff blah blah blah, but seriously, unless you really go and pixel peeep damn closely, the differences are very little.

And clients really don't care if you've shot RAW or Jpeg, because ultimately, it's the awesome images you take, that they want.

 

[KHC]

It a nice read.

A bit more review of the 5D MKII.