albertri
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yep that's my observations so hoping after tweaking my E620 I could get a much better night shot those that doesnt need any touching up
E3 vs EP1/2
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yep that's my observations so hoping after tweaking my E620 I could get a much better night shot those that doesnt need any touching up
yep that's my observations so hoping after tweaking my E620 I could get a much better night shot those that doesnt need any touching up
The downside to that is the e620 will lose details. Here, I actually found the E3 superior to either (esp for ISO 400 and below).
albertri
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there's always Oly Master hehehe (joke):bsmilie:
You mean Oly Master is a joke? Not far off ... esp when they try to sell Studio ... IMHO they should just use Oly Master as a utility for upgrading of software (take away all the image editing stuff) and then use Stdio for Imaging stuff.
Still hungry .... am still interested to find out what the FT users think of the difference in the FT and present mFT IQ ...
There are quite a few cross overs ... e620 to EP and even EP to e620 ...
It's mostly in the nuances at this point.
The E-3 doesn't handle high ISO noise (if you can call 800 and 1600 high) as well as the E-P series but the dynamic range on the older sensor is better.
If the E-P series had the Panasonic DMC-GH1 sensor and still produced files similar-looking to any current Olympus body, that would be better but that's not happening.
It still comes down to what you're shooting and how well you know the equipment. If you give up control (auto focus, auto exposure esp. i-Auto/iA), you're not likely going to get the best results unless you happen to be taking photos in a situation for which they tested.
microcosm
Senior Member
Actually, it is one of the best conversion of RAW -> TIFF/JPG utility out there. Unless color is not your thing and you only shoot in black and white. Or you are using other RAW converter apps like Silkypix. Until in a thousand years later when Adobe get their act together.
albertri
Senior Member
I am using Oly Master to just doing basic stuffs like croping, chnaging gammas, converting color to b&w etc...
I guess we are all agreeing that the EPs handle higher ISOs (>800) better.
But I am actually a little surprised that you feel the E3 has a better DR than the EPs. IMHO the colours seems more balanced and maybe I get more exposures "right" with the E3 than the EPs (? better controls) but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the E3 has better DR.
albertri
Senior Member
Hi Guys,
I'm new in this what do you guys means by Dynamic range??? in what term???
tks
albertri
Senior Member
Thanks spidey.... got some idea now what you guys are pertaining to dynamic range in photography
The E-620 has better dynamic range numerically, according to what I've seen in tests, than the E-P series and yet, it still doesn't seem to do better than the E-3.
The E-P series is quite good, but it still has a long way to go. As I've been saying at the first rumour for the E-P2, we'll be up to the E-P14 before they're as complete and handy as a dSLR.
albertri
Senior Member
I'm kinda confuse is DR something got to do with Sensor size/type/make?? or the processor algorithm os software/firmware?? or all of the above...
coz looking at all the cam mentioned they are all 4/3 sensor size and hopefully using the same processor and processing techniques or close... then why a same brand with the same sensor size and even maybe same sersor type/make will procure different DR quality??
I'm not a pro or what,but I did notice that the D700 had a wider dynamic range than my E-1 when I shot some images at Clubsnap Live@SAM recently, I believe its both sensor design as well as processing, something like computers. Both PCs and Macs use core 2 duo, yet Mac is somewhat "more efficient" because of the OS, so I believe that both hardware and software play a part, I could be wrong though
albertri
Senior Member
based on your experience this make sense this are two different sensor type and size and even processor and Algorithm but same brand and sensor size and sometime same sensor type/make doesnt make sense unless each of Oly body/model will have different processing technique??? This is true is there's new technique ot algorithm they are using to process the image/bits from the sensor...
hmmm but I maybe wrong also hehehe or this could be individual preferences?? or how the photographer did his/her metering???... each has its own technique and style like me a lot of ppl are asking me why I am using P-Mode when using OM Lens I told them I just adjust the exposure and I let the cam decide the shutter speed according to the light it senses coming in from the lens... this may not be correct but I find it easy for me to take a shot (most of the time hahaha) there are time I am force to use the M or S or A mode.
Acutually when using manual lenses,supposed to use A mode,hahahaha,anyway,IIRC correctly,someone told me don't know what camera and the E-3 have the same sensor,only different ways of processing,hahahaha,so even the E-3 images differ from the rest, and I believe Panasonic provides the Live MOS sensor, so that gives you a rough idea
albertri
Senior Member
Told you bro im not normal hehehe. Or i guess im lazy will try to use A mode next time hehe.
Yeah if the encoding or algorithm is.different and also the sensor make/type yeah that could result a different image characteristics. This is true when you try to compare different brand even though they may using same sensor type and even same sensor maker like of panasonic and oly.
Not a good basis for comparison; D700 and E1's sensors are generations apart with different pixel density using different technology.
Whereas the EPs and E620 were probably still using similar sensors.
I compared the 2 because I was using the 2 at that time, I never intended it to be an actual comparison of camera against camera, even using my other cameras, the D700 still seemed easier to get back details in the highlight from what I see, and even the image shot were unfair because of the metering and other variable factors, I was merely using my experience as an example
microcosm
Senior Member
Point 1 : There are different grades of sensors, even though they are Four Thirds sensors.
Point 2 : There are loads of difference in the programming codes for firmware for different models of cameras. That changes things as well.
Point 3 : Having a sensor is one thing. Having all good components in the camera working together and putting together all better quality components creates a better camera, period.
Point 4 : There are many factors when looking at a camera, inside and outside. Weatherproofing is one of them.
Point 5 : Buy what you need, and not what you wish you have. It just makes it an endless cycle.
Point 2 : There are loads of difference in the programming codes for firmware for different models of cameras. That changes things as well.
Point 3 : Having a sensor is one thing. Having all good components in the camera working together and putting together all better quality components creates a better camera, period.
Point 4 : There are many factors when looking at a camera, inside and outside. Weatherproofing is one of them.
Point 5 : Buy what you need, and not what you wish you have. It just makes it an endless cycle.
