Does this look like 'Glow' or 'Sonnar' to you?


I do not quite agree. Much of the character and value of fancy lenses liesin shooting wide open. If dun shoot wide open, seems quite waste to me. Some photographers like thorsten overgaard advocate always shoot wide open.
 

yeah...agreed. if you read 'bay on sonnar zm lenses, some of the sellers will post whether is it optimised at f2 or f2.8. I do not think this is merely a function of "bokeh" but other things as well, eg like the glow effects or how soft or how hard it renders. I think one of the characters of sonnar is that it is soft wide open, and sharp stopped down plus there is an infamous focus shift on this lens.

On top of this, I find that different film/developer creates a somewhat chalky, different effect onto the lens shot that wide apertures.

eg. czj sonnar at 1.5 and ultrafine extreme with xtol.

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good for shooting flesh in B&W armani or guess advert lol
 

Is this a sonnar shot ? :p

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This was shot on ZM sonnar, not wide open i think, and with the zeiss "pop" :)

 

Newghost, your C Sonnar 50 shot is super sharp. Its 3D thing makes it look as though its superimposed! Good stuff!
Blacvios, this is the first time I am seeing the results from the .95 and I must say its impressive.Good try on the fake :) I was almost fooled.

I agree that to fully enjoy an artistic lens' drawing, we would have to shoot wide open. We also would need to bear in mind that sometimes, stopping down gives an equally important effect - depth. After being deep into RF, I found myself shooting at smaller apertures as I shot at high ASA's. The depth of field may not be that shallow at F8, but it adds to the whole feel of the shot, rather than simply 'blurring' everything.
 

Newghost, your C Sonnar 50 shot is super sharp. Its 3D thing makes it look as though its superimposed! Good stuff!
Blacvios, this is the first time I am seeing the results from the .95 and I must say its impressive.Good try on the fake :) I was almost fooled.

I agree that to fully enjoy an artistic lens' drawing, we would have to shoot wide open. We also would need to bear in mind that sometimes, stopping down gives an equally important effect - depth. After being deep into RF, I found myself shooting at smaller apertures as I shot at high ASA's. The depth of field may not be that shallow at F8, but it adds to the whole feel of the shot, rather than simply 'blurring' everything.

The Voigtlander M4/3 25mm/f0.95 has a pretty "sonnar" like kind of drawing, in that it has some color aberrations and milky bokeh wide open and close. It is a nice lens, which is one of two reasons why I am still holding onto my GF-1.

Here's a picture I took of a professor who taught me a few years back. It was taken with the ZM C-Sonnar and on Kodak TMAX400.

Professor Jean Krisch by Darth Solarion, on Flickr

I do not think it shows the Sonnar characteristics, despite being shot wide open, but one thing is for certain is that I like the bokeh qualities, and the 3D pop effect.
 

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Anyone can comment on this lens? Haha.

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Is this CZJ the Sonnar in a Jupiter body :p
 

Actually how to differentiate between real and fake.
 

Just asking...does these look Sonnar in any way in a glance?







 

I don't mean to rock the boat, I wanted to challenge the view and perception that how we 'see' a lens 'drawing' sometimes can be influenced by our poisoned mind.

The three shots I did were all from the Nikon AIS 50mm 1.2 with a Nikon D3s. RAW converted to JPEGs. I shot them all wide open, and started to wonder, is this the 'glow' or Sonnar-likeness that I like?

Comments welcomed!

Hi Benji77, the 50mm f1.5 Sonnar lens, when stopped down, it is no difference from other 50mm...the characteristic will become obvious, only when you shoot wide open...I find the shot below from Pixelbrain is a good demonstration..he shoot with Carl Zeiss original Sonnar in Contax mount...look at the old man subtle glow at the highlight of his white hair and the old man right eye...the focus point rest on the old man left eye...try to focus the subject at close distance like 1 to 1.5m and you should see more character...:D

 

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