Do you really need a flash?

[hatabee]

Flash is a must...hahaha..

Last time i thought IS was able to compensate for the long timing shoots but i was wrong...Flash is a must and u definately need a external flash to bounce...haha

I love my EX430....

Hatabee

 

[Daedalus Trent]

U will NEED flash...

Son of a.... :bsmilie:


nice one! ;p

 

[bernong1]

U will NEED flash...

This is hilarious!!!! :bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:
Bernard

 

[jiangui]

then what does you guys think of the 3rd party flash ?
is it advisable to buy 3rd party or canon flash?
in term of the quality how is the 3rd party flash different from the canon 1?

 

[Bravolove]

then what does you guys think of the 3rd party flash ?
is it advisable to buy 3rd party or canon flash?
in term of the quality how is the 3rd party flash different from the canon 1?

I am also thinking of getting a 3rd party flash. And I am looking at Sunpak PZ42x which cost about $200. So what are your views on 3rd party flash?

 

[m3lv1nh0]

Do yourself a favour and get the Canon EX580II.. faster recycle time, ability to twist 180 deg, solid built, inbulit bouncecard.. all thesemake it the best on-camera flash to get.. for off camera stobist flash.. than can get cheaper version as you dun use it that often

 

[jiangui]

the price is a lot different ... i was thinking of the sunpak too =)
maybe like can list down the advantages VS the disadvantages between the 2 of this flash?
cos it is like if both can serve the same function and rotate the same angle why waste my money to buy the more expensive 1 ???
really need some guidance=)
thank you

 

[theveed]

A resounding yes.... read my article

Read this as well to those who think ambient is best... http://planetneil.com/tangents/flash-photography-techniques/2-flash-ambient-light/

So here are two shots in succession. The one with flash, and the one purely ambient light. The shot with flash had the WB slightly adjusted, the other is directly out of camera. Exposure settings remained the same, and I didn’t touch up exposure in raw either.

Note that the flash shot has NO flash shadow. It looks natural, and a hell of a lot better than the ambient-only shot. By using flash, *I* controlled the light, and didn’t merely shrug my shoulders and complain that the ambient light wasn’t ideal.

with flash / ambient only

To improve exposure for the ambient-only shot, I could’ve set a slower shutter speed, and risked blur as they move and from camera shake. Or I could’ve bumped up my iso to get the higher shutter speed, but then have to deal with increased grain. Also, the ambient light isn’t even. With flash I had much more control over how the final image looks.

And with this I am also daring the ambient-only purists to tell me that the image with flash doesn’t look a lot better than the ambient shot.

 

[eosdigital]

Hi, i remember somebody adviced me on this before but i forgot what he said.

Anyway, what i want to ask is - how do u reduce the flash shadow from flashgun?
I got to play with a 3rd party flashgun(read - Nikon SB-800) for the fun and noticed that even though the flash was less harsher when tipped to 45deg for example, the flash shadow would be more noticable, and in some case - harsher.

 

[CaptainBarbel]

im guessing its because flash is over tilt, or bounce card is very big... and i think it depends on the potrait or landscape shooting, i notice if i shoot portrait, there is harsh shadows...my 2 cents

photography is about light...flash is the one giving light...

 

[Headshotzx]

Hi, i remember somebody adviced me on this before but i forgot what he said.

Anyway, what i want to ask is - how do u reduce the flash shadow from flashgun?
I got to play with a 3rd party flashgun(read - Nikon SB-800) for the fun and noticed that even though the flash was less harsher when tipped to 45deg for example, the flash shadow would be more noticable, and in some case - harsher.

try 75 degrees shooting backwards.

 

[aloyyolaaloy]

Hi, i remember somebody adviced me on this before but i forgot what he said.

Anyway, what i want to ask is - how do u reduce the flash shadow from flashgun?
I got to play with a 3rd party flashgun(read - Nikon SB-800) for the fun and noticed that even though the flash was less harsher when tipped to 45deg for example, the flash shadow would be more noticable, and in some case - harsher.

try adding a bounce card to reduce the "harshness"

 

[zan82]

Depending on the height of the ceiling and the distance of the subject, you can play ard with the angle of the bounce head.

Suggest you to try lessen 1/3 stop of light and see if it's still harsh?

 

[J-Chan]

Hi, i remember somebody adviced me on this before but i forgot what he said.

Anyway, what i want to ask is - how do u reduce the flash shadow from flashgun?
I got to play with a 3rd party flashgun(read - Nikon SB-800) for the fun and noticed that even though the flash was less harsher when tipped to 45deg for example, the flash shadow would be more noticable, and in some case - harsher.

the main principle here is to get your light source as large as possible relative to your subject, most commonly done by bouncing the light off the ceiling.. reducing the quantity of light doesn't affect the quality of light..

 

[Junye]

check out this website.
the photographer takes fashion shoots.
notice how well exposed the pictures came out to be.

http://www.4fr.de/diary/

think the photographer relied on natural light? think again.

 

[glenoe12]

check out this website.
the photographer takes fashion shoots.
notice how well exposed the pictures came out to be.

http://www.4fr.de/diary/

think the photographer relied on natural light? think again.

nah, i think these were shot in studio then montaged with background images. the 1st image should already have produced rimlight effect on the model's skin as she is silhouetted by the sun. DI work is very good and well done.

 

[fotoacs]

external flash is of course needed.

builtin flash guide no are too low.

 

[cannotshoot]

wishxtreme,

You DONT need a flash in shooting indoor events. But make sure you have a fast lens like a f2.8.
If you want to totally stop motion blur, just up the ISO.

Think about it, why buy a flash when you can buy a lens for the same amount of cash.

 

[Daedalus Trent]

wishxtreme,

You DONT need a flash in shooting indoor events. But make sure you have a fast lens like a f2.8.
If you want to totally stop motion blur, just up the ISO.

Think about it, why buy a flash when you can buy a lens for the same amount of cash.

erm...i really disagree on that, sometimes f2.8 just isn't enough, especially if you need the DoF. And honestly, even though i'm not a canon user, i don't see how a low-end flash and cost 'as much as' a f2.8 zoom lens :think:

 

[cannotshoot]

I'm not considering other low-end flash as an alternative to Canon EX flashes