diff between UW-cam n Cam with Casing


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Hi, wana ask you guys. What is the difference between Underwater camera and those Camera with underwater casing. Which is better?
 

If I understand the question correctly, then comments below.

Underwater cameras, that I know of, are like NIKONOS range - no need for separate housing. Use film only, as far as I know.

Housed cameras, need a separate housing. Cameras may be either film or digital, compact or SLR. Housing can be acrylic (eg Ikelite) or aluminium (eg Sea and Sea).

Which is better is the $64,000 question - although if i had $64000, I would get 4 set ups .... 2 film and 2 digital (each with close up and wide angle set up) - and a camera-carrying dive buddy :P.

Hope this helps.

Jeff (Still using film coz got no money to convert to dark side)
 

cat64fish said:
Which is better is the $64,000 question - although if i had $64000, I would get 4 set ups .... 2 film and 2 digital (each with close up and wide angle set up) - and a camera-carrying dive buddy :P.

wahh can i be ur buddy? :D

eh.. housed cameras are cameras built for land, and housed in a housing.
Underwater camera is designed for underwater use mainly. it doesn't have a housing. and the range is also very limited.

there's digital and film for underwater camera. not much review though, i haven seen anyone ard me use a digital underwater camera, but film yea,, and apparently the photos are really good.

er which is better.. i think each got its advantage and disadvantages lah.. i myself never used a underwater camera (except the disposable ones). Housed cameras seems more fesible and flexible for me as i shoot both land and underwater
 

There's are digital u/w camera??!! Cool.

I've used Nikonos 5 and Nikonos RS, both of which are film u/w cameras, and no longer in production (except perhaps in the US and Japan). I've handled (but not used) a Nikonos 3, which is completely machanical ... meaning that if it got flooded, all it needs was a rinse in fresh water and a change of film and batteries and it is good to go again.

The 5 is nice and compact, but the RS is a monster, both in terms of weight and cost. Exceptional photo quality though.

I'm going to buy a 4d or big sweep ticket tonite ... I'm considering getting a housing for my D70 ... or may be, if I wait long enough, the D200 :P

If I strike it big, I'll consider having you as buddy lovells, although I prefer someone prettier ... :P ... hehe
 

It is not so much the camera but the lens.

The Nikonos Lens is specifically designed for undewater use, so is very very good.

The body just has the metering and stuff.

There is another swiss made camera called subeye. Reminds me of hassleblad. This camera can use both Nikonos Lens and dome port lens.

Once the lens has that extra layer outside, somehow the colors, dimension, vividness... seems to drop. This is just my opinion.

But in terms of digital stuff, so much easier to get to a decent level of competence using a digital camera.
 

davidlkh said:
It is not so much the camera but the lens.

The Nikonos Lens is specifically designed for undewater use, so is very very good.

The body just has the metering and stuff.

There is another swiss made camera called subeye. Reminds me of hassleblad. This camera can use both Nikonos Lens and dome port lens.

Once the lens has that extra layer outside, somehow the colors, dimension, vividness... seems to drop. This is just my opinion.

But in terms of digital stuff, so much easier to get to a decent level of competence using a digital camera.

Nikonos has a "land" lens, which is useful for "on-top-of water" type use (example when kayaking). I think it is a standard 50mm lens.

I am not sure what you mean by "extra layer outside" - I guess this is for housed systems, meaning a layer of air and glass between the lens and the water? The decrease in colour etc could be due to the film you use ... Ectachrome 64 and Velvia 50 are the only choice for underwater photos ... but with the tendancy for manufacturers to make stuff for the "masses", both these films are harder to get.

Kind of a strange economy we live in - even though there is demand for the stuff, manufacturers are "telling" us we don't ... :\

On that topic of manufacturers "telling" us what we want or don't want ... I'd think that "re-designing" the Nikonos into a digital camera is not impossible - thereby allowing those excellent Nokonos lens to be used.

Sorry for sounding a bit whiny :)

Cheers, Jeff
 

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