Data Logging (Dynax 7)

[forbytes]

Wonder how many of you users out there have the habit of logging the exposure settings of each frame into EXCEL manually? I am 1 of them. Maybe we can share some thoughts about how to perfect the spreadsheet here. Things like what you want to see, what you want to highlight and etc.

 

[deslim27]

Wonder how many of you users out there have the habit of logging the exposure settings of each frame into EXCEL manually? I am 1 of them. Maybe we can share some thoughts about how to perfect the spreadsheet here. Things like what you want to see, what you want to highlight and etc.

I log for slide only.. anyway, writing straight onto the mounting.. hee..

Usually, I will record the frame no, metering mode, F/stop, shutterspeed, focal length, date/time, EV/Flash comp setting. Will state any tripod or other accessories used as well if applicable.

 

[UY79]

Hi,

In addition to the data of each frame being kept by the camera, I record the serial number of the roll, which the camera will print on each roll, and the type film used. I also made a form in Access to browse by roll and display the details of the frames for that roll.

Cheers!

 

[forbytes]

In Access, you can also insert the image or thumbnail into the database using OLE DB. Cool.

 

[ileaf]

me too, i recorded down all the data log to excel.
shutter speed, aperture, focal length, EV, metering mode & flash EV (if any).
still trying to perfect the sheet
maybe some kind soul can share share?

 

[forbytes]

Hi ileaf, you mean the exposure compensation instead of EV right. EV (exposure value) has to be calculated. My spreadsheet has that feature enabled using Macro. EV considers how much light should be put on to your film and is a function of aperture, shutter speed and ASA.

 

[sulhan]

Hiee.....

I created a pocket pc 2002 applicatiion for my PDA previously using VB for pda.
Its called ShotsRecord 1.0.

Did offered for free trial here in CS.....few months back......

Its basically a input device for cam settings Aperture, shutter etc.....

Need to replace the PDA and mybe need to rewrite the application in .NET....
for PDA

rgds...
sulhan

 

[forbytes]

Hiee.....

I created a pocket pc 2002 applicatiion for my PDA previously using VB for pda.
Its called ShotsRecord 1.0.

Did offered for free trial here in CS.....few months back......

Its basically a input device for cam settings Aperture, shutter etc.....

Need to replace the PDA and mybe need to rewrite the application in .NET....
for PDA

rgds...
sulhan

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[nhyone]

Wonder how many of you users out there have the habit of logging the exposure settings of each frame into EXCEL manually?

Manually? No way! Get the DS-100 and be done with it! It's worth the time and effort. Still, you need to remember to bring it around cos the Dynax 7 can only record 7 rolls.

Quite important note: if you want the time to be correct, you have to set the time on the Dynax 7 periodically. It's not very accurate.

I am 1 of them. Maybe we can share some thoughts about how to perfect the spreadsheet here. Things like what you want to see, what you want to highlight and etc.

It doesn't tell me the things that are useful: EV of all 14 segments, flash power, focusing point, focusing distance.

I used to be obsessed about exposure settings, but in reality, I seldom use it; only when things go wrong; underexposed, for example. Another is to finetune DOF, for example, to see if the DOF was too little or too much.

I do try to get some statistics from it: like what lens and aperture I use most often. (But I already know the answer -- because I typically use only two apertures for normal shots. )

 

[forbytes]

Well, I can say that this is a great tool for begineers. Some of them always use P mode and do not understand the basic relation of aperture and shutter. While in photography, it may be all about composition and luck (be at the right place at the right time with a camera), certain photographic situations require knowledge about aperture and shutter. For instance, if you want to freeze motion, you have to set faster shutter speed which cannot be obtained when using P mode. On another case, if you want to shoot a light trail with exposure greater than 30 seconds, you must also understand f-stop and time stop. To acheve the same EV, how much compensation you need to make. It is a great learning tool.

 

[sulhan]

Hiee....

From my experience, i will normally use the data available to put into presets for pre-determined lighting condition - and mostly sunrise sunset shots whre lighting variations can sometimes be judged - where light source is not too powerful. So i normally check my slides .....choose the type of image i want....and put into the presets. Then a bracketign is done in worst case to grab the desired image.

Not all my data are retrieved nowadays....only some of the "sweet spot" images selectively chosen...

rgds,
sulhan

 

[vivientan]

Hiee.....

I created a pocket pc 2002 applicatiion for my PDA previously using VB for pda.
Its called ShotsRecord 1.0.

Did offered for free trial here in CS.....few months back......

Its basically a input device for cam settings Aperture, shutter etc.....

Need to replace the PDA and mybe need to rewrite the application in .NET....
for PDA

rgds...
sulhan

Hey Sulhan,

Are u offering the application FOC for fellow Minoltians?

 

[vivientan]

Manually? No way! Get the DS-100 and be done with it! It's worth the time and effort. Still, you need to remember to bring it around cos the Dynax 7 can only record 7 rolls.

How much is the DS-100 selling in S'pore? I'm also considering to get it.

 

[TME]

I would like to get the DSC-100 when I can get my hands on a 7 digital..... that way can compared shots and settings and then think about how to get the best shot in a given situation with a set of settings that would work... right now I am usually second guessing camera's light meter.... a bit hit and miss...

 

[nhyone]

I would like to get the DSC-100 when I can get my hands on a 7 digital.....

For the 7D, as with all digital cameras, are likely to embed the info within the image file itself. There is no need for this gadget.

that way can compared shots and settings and then think about how to get the best shot in a given situation with a set of settings that would work... right now I am usually second guessing camera's light meter.... a bit hit and miss...

If you are using slide film and are still learning, bracket. That allows you to see the effect of different exposures. If you are not learning, bracket anyway. Different exposure gives different mood.

For negatives, you can be very casual about exposure. When in doubt, overexpose to capture shadow details, unless limited by shutter speed (not too slow to avoid camera shake).

 

[TME]

For the 7D, as with all digital cameras, are likely to embed the info within the image file itself. There is no need for this gadget. [\quote]

Yea right!! I forgot about the EXIF data that accompanies each shot.... can't blame me... ever used a DSLR only once....

If you are using slide film and are still learning, bracket. That allows you to see the effect of different exposures. If you are not learning, bracket anyway. Different exposure gives different mood.

For negatives, you can be very casual about exposure. When in doubt, overexpose to capture shadow details, unless limited by shutter speed (not too slow to avoid camera shake).

Hmm.... I seem to be always over exposing my 200 or 400 Fuji film eveytime I use it, day or night.... makes the shot better but just makes me wonder if the light meter can be made to default to read a brighter value.... it's still very hit and miss for me... and I have a grand dinner to cover.... very sianz..... thought I can go there and relax but kenna "arrowed"...

 

[nhyone]

Hmm.... I seem to be always over exposing my 200 or 400 Fuji film eveytime I use it, day or night...

How do you tell? Did you look at the negatives?

makes the shot better but just makes me wonder if the light meter can be made to default to read a brighter value.... it's still very hit and miss for me...

Set the exposure compensation to +1/3 or +1/2, or set ISO to 250/320 (for ISO 400 film).

What's so hit-n-miss about your metering? You don't trust it and override it all the time?

Here's what I do when I think the meter is underexposing (due to backlight, for example): point to the ground or to a darker patch (no need to look through viewfinder), hit AEL and go back to compose.

 

[TME]

How do you tell? Did you look at the negatives?


Set the exposure compensation to +1/3 or +1/2, or set ISO to 250/320 (for ISO 400 film).

What's so hit-n-miss about your metering? You don't trust it and override it all the time?

Here's what I do when I think the meter is underexposing (due to backlight, for example): point to the ground or to a darker patch (no need to look through viewfinder), hit AEL and go back to compose.

Yupe the negatives are very light... hence under.... I usually fix my ISO but push my exposure to +1.0EV, even in bright daylight... ISO200 is much better although I would expect ISO400 to be ok as well.... I used to use centre weighted metering, now I use evaluative.... perhaps I should use centre-weighted when I have a lot of scenery with people near the middle...

 

[ninelives]

I used to export them manually into my Palm with a software called ThinkDB. But now I simply can't bother.....getting lazy liao....... :sweat: