D90 vs 50d

[desertstrike]

Let's not get too excited about our D90s... maybe the salesman's shop ran out of D90 stock, and "encouraging" people to buy the 50D leh?

yes... D90 is missing on his display... only a empty base ;p

 

[desertstrike]

if u r more incline towards 50D... buy the D300 instead

much much more expensive leh bro :think:

 

[desertstrike]

Have you read the whole review? DPReview is calling the default Picture Control for jpgs soft.

Adjust the sharpness meter of the picture control. Problem solved.

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Anyway, when I went to John 3:16 more than a week ago looking for D90 (and they have no stock), the salesperson gave his opinion that Canon 450D is better than D90.

Did I care? Apparently not, as I now have my D90 and absolutely loving it.

steady lah bro :thumbsup:

 

[desertstrike]

Hi

Instead of asking D90 or 50D, why not also ask which lense system do you want? If you are willing to part $1800 for a body, I bet you will be getting some really solid lenses! Hay this is 50D, not 1000D!!!

So, most importantly, ask yourself, how much are you going to invest in the next 3 years in photography and plan your lens and decide which system to get.

I was asking myself, for 50D, I can get the legendary 17-40L which can be used as a fullframe (if I am not wrong). Cool! And of course, the 17-40L is very very good in terms of optics! I looked at the other lens of canon of same price range and well, lets just say 17-40L at that price is a rare find.

I finally decided on D90 with 16-85VRII. Of course, this combination save me quite a few hundred of dollars (or issit close to 1k?). ( FYI, I am truly enjoying the 16mm wide.. 2mm at 18mm is substantial vs 2mm at 85mm Its the angle that counts!)

To be frank, getting a 50D with the $100-$200 canon kit lens is quite a mismatch ( I will knock any salesman's head if he will to intro me this).

You are not buying a compact, especially if you are getting 50D. It is 30% the body, 70% the lens. If you take RAW, it is 90% the lenses and flash, 10% the body! If you really want to compare, I think the ranking is as such

D300 --> N
50D --> C
D90 --> N
40D --> C
D80 --> N
450D --> C
D60 / D40/ 1000D market

So it is pretty obvious the market strategy. The cameras are not equivalent or comparable!

Side Note: D90 LCD screen is awesome for viewing Pic U took!

thanks for the post :thumbsup:

 

[blue_quartz]

i see... so in conclusion, if i take using 12mp and 15mp and i view it on my 22" LCD, i cannot see the difference rite? if no cropping... no editing.... nothing...

I think you mistook my point. Let's dumb down the values. I use 3 pixels to represent a traffic light: just nice 1 pixel for each colour. Now, I use 3 x 3 x 3 = 27 pixels, effectively a 9-pixel square to represent each colour. The second traffic light will appear to be 3 times as large.

hmm... is D90 an entry level? cos initially i was thinking of investing in it and use for ard 8-10 years? too ambitious? ;p

Well, for starters the D90's shutter is rated to be 100,000 clicks. Assume you shoot moderately and you are careful in sending it to NSC to maintain the shutter mechanism regularly, it may be able to last as long as 10 years?

 

[KenBit]

hmm... is D90 an entry level? cos initially i was thinking of investing in it and use for ard 8-10 years? too ambitious? ;p

If you look at my previous post, the D90 is not an entry-level camera but a camera which is aimed at the advanced amateur photographer which the fact is also supported by world famous photographer, Chase Jarvis who previewed and tested out the D90 commenting on it as a great camera with ISO perforemances close to the D3. If you would like to go watch the video, go to youtube and type Chase Jarvis advance testing the D90.
But if got money buy the D700. Absolutely loving it!!!

haha okie... the way he put it to me makes me looks silly to get the D90... :dunno:
haiz.... salesman...

He wants everyone to be silly just like him. I don't see the point in paying about $250-$400 more to get the 50D body only compared to the D90 body only. Comparing the kits, the D90 is around $1650 with 18-105 while the Canon does not have an equivalent, the closest is most probably the 28-105 which is already USD499 and further more you still miss out on the range 18-28. Further more, the f stop on it not much difference too. And assuming you get the 50D + 28-105 (missing out on 18-28 range) VS D90 Kit the difference is already $730. ANd not forgetting you are missing out on the focal range which is naturally what you will get from D90 kit so its not a matter of covering more focal range.

 

[doom102938]

And if you buy flash, the difference increases.

BTW when ppl say the dark side, it refers to Nikon and yes a Nikon electric fan here.

 

[Nenjia]

hi guys,

i went to a shop to have a look at the D90,
but was told that the D90 is a joke, particularly the video mode...
also say that should not waste my money on D90...
should get the 50D instead...

i dun know if it is real or the person just wanna promote canon 50D
guys, whats ur view on this?

don't think they are in same level, D90 is only a entry, 50D is a semi, so choice is yours.:bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[Nenjia]

don't think they are in same level, D90 is only a entry, 50D is a semi, so choice is yours.:bsmilie::bsmilie:

by N's coding system D90 is a entry level cam. it will NOT support all manual lens on metering, and the build of body and the shutter are same as Dxx.

personally, think if take on Jpeg, N is slightly better than C.

 

[d7t3]

hmm... is D90 an entry level? cos initially i was thinking of investing in it and use for ard 8-10 years? too ambitious? ;p

Personally speaking, my 4-year-old D70 is fully functional still but I experience quite a bit of delay 'waking up' from standby (i.e. when the camera is inactive for a while with the power switch left on). I'm not certain any DSLR (pro or entry-level) can work like new after 8-10 years even if carefully used. Besides the electronics you also have to think about battery issues.

 

[KenBit]

don't think they are in same level, D90 is only a entry, 50D is a semi, so choice is yours.:bsmilie::bsmilie:

Sorry to upset you, maybe your a Canon fanboy too, but the Nikon D90 is a mid-range DSLR which fact, is supported via professional, Chase Jarvis and Cameralabs.

 

[doom102938]

Ya. And if you are using manual focus, you probably can take your time to take a few shots to get the correct exposure.

Entry level are the D40, D40x, D60 for N camp. For C camp, its the 1000D and 450D.

 

[kero89]

Sorry to upset you, maybe your a Canon fanboy too, but the Nikon D90 is a mid-range DSLR which fact, is supported via professional, Chase Jarvis and Cameralabs.

thats where nikon does it well..

build of a professional
price of a entry level
at the heart of image

i believe D90 is steps ahead of 450D, 1 small step behind 50D, albeit don have 15.6mp or iso 12800, everything else can be comparably on par between D90 and 50D

 

[desertstrike]

If you look at my previous post, the D90 is not an entry-level camera but a camera which is aimed at the advanced amateur photographer which the fact is also supported by world famous photographer, Chase Jarvis who previewed and tested out the D90 commenting on it as a great camera with ISO perforemances close to the D3. If you would like to go watch the video, go to youtube and type Chase Jarvis advance testing the D90.
But if got money buy the D700. Absolutely loving it!!!



He wants everyone to be silly just like him. I don't see the point in paying about $250-$400 more to get the 50D body only compared to the D90 body only. Comparing the kits, the D90 is around $1650 with 18-105 while the Canon does not have an equivalent, the closest is most probably the 28-105 which is already USD499 and further more you still miss out on the range 18-28. Further more, the f stop on it not much difference too. And assuming you get the 50D + 28-105 (missing out on 18-28 range) VS D90 Kit the difference is already $730. ANd not forgetting you are missing out on the focal range which is naturally what you will get from D90 kit so its not a matter of covering more focal range.

thanks for the comment
i think i wil get D90... D700 is a bit overkill for someone who is still learning at a beginner stage

 

[desertstrike]

I think you mistook my point. Let's dumb down the values. I use 3 pixels to represent a traffic light: just nice 1 pixel for each colour. Now, I use 3 x 3 x 3 = 27 pixels, effectively a 9-pixel square to represent each colour. The second traffic light will appear to be 3 times as large.


Well, for starters the D90's shutter is rated to be 100,000 clicks. Assume you shoot moderately and you are careful in sending it to NSC to maintain the shutter mechanism regularly, it may be able to last as long as 10 years?

hmm... ok, i understand more pixel, larger...

but on a 22" LCD screen, if i set the pic to 1680 * 1024, will a 12mp vs 15mp show any difference?

 

[desertstrike]

And if you buy flash, the difference increases.

BTW when ppl say the dark side, it refers to Nikon and yes a Nikon electric fan here.

okie, sry, new to here, so dun know the terms

nikon = dark side ;-)

 

[desertstrike]

by N's coding system D90 is a entry level cam. it will NOT support all manual lens on metering, and the build of body and the shutter are same as Dxx.

personally, think if take on Jpeg, N is slightly better than C.

er... what is meant by N's coding system?

 

[desertstrike]

Ya. And if you are using manual focus, you probably can take your time to take a few shots to get the correct exposure.

Entry level are the D40, D40x, D60 for N camp. For C camp, its the 1000D and 450D.

oh, so N = nikon
and C = canon?

 

[whkoh]

er... what is meant by N's coding system?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Nikon_DSLR_cameras

Something like this.

 

[desertstrike]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Nikon_DSLR_cameras

Something like this.

oh i see, understood, thank you