35mm more common. the 12-24 i don't really see it tt much
Actually that is the best way to counter compulsive and impulsive BBB. The dark side of the force is strong. Envy, and Lust belongs to the dark side... :devil:
Bro, you could had said "headless" instead... :bsmilie:
Anyway, bro, I think for landscape people, don't have too get too good too expensive also la. Most of the time we tout UWAs, which are not that heavy anyway. The people who need super strong equipment are the sports, wildlife, adventure, macro and birding people...
hehe.. yap.. die liao.. so stuck at that section..
I know I know LOLz... Actually hor it depends on individual... brand new Tokina 11-16 or Nikon 10-24 (not to mention the crazy priced 12-24) may not be that far reaching as compared to lets say 70-200 VR II or 14-24/24-70... but I trust they are just as hard-hitting to many, especially those who thinks that once you have plonked down for a good DSLR, the rest is easy-breezing (down hill, so to speak)... Not so...
To some, talk about some 600 bucks lens, you can already hear some grumbling in the background... :bsmilie: That's just everyone's different perspective... I'm still grumbling, just wished my UWA was 200 bucks cheaper than your Tokina! :sweatsm:
If you're refering to Nikon's... I believe someone try to sell it at 900 + some weeks back - I was sooooooo damn tempted... You might wanna back track the pages a bit to see if it was sold. Condition pretty okay also...
Aiyoh, What I meant was stability and creep la. Not about which lenses are more exp or cheaper.
Long heavy lenses need stronger ballheads so there is no creep and no "shake". Some need gimbals. As for macro, you are zoomed in so close that any minute slip or shake is greatly amplified. Plus, need to mount off camera flash, macro rails, all at weird angles... etc...
i just saw 1 going for 1k. btw what UWA are you using?
The crappily built Nikon 10-24 mm... :devil: (someone is asking to be poisoned...teehee)
crappily built meh??? ok. i shall go check out the price. (self poison)
Aoooouuuuuu!!! 'Soright, my bad okay? Blindme, thousand apologies!
Yeah, I know what you mean then... if it's strictly Landscape usage - for sure no need the best (ballhead that is). However, that doesn't mean one would not venture into lets say macro or sports, when they want a break from the usual Landscaping... Of course, that's just my dark side speaking...
It IS crappily built - go read all the reviews out there! Photozone.de, Ken Rockwell's... all say crappy (exterior that is)... MADE in CHINA somemore... 12-24 is MADE in JAPAN okayz?
ya ya.. true true..
Thats why we all posion each other to buy Markins...
Markins Markins Markins... :devil:
:cheergal:*do the markins dance*:cheergal:
Don't diss china la. No china, how we going to get our cheap cheap light stands and light boxes...:bsmilie:
BTW 35/1.8 also made in China, but quite alright leh...
Sigma also made in Japan... see that focus off, see that body peeeeeeeeeeeeeel
It IS crappily built - go read all the reviews out there! Photozone.de, Ken Rockwell's... all say crappy (exterior that is)... MADE in CHINA somemore... 12-24 is MADE in JAPAN okayz?![]()
wah lau. now i dunno next time wan buy 12-24 or 11-16 liao...
Bro... I think you did not detect my sarcasm in that statement... :bsmilie: If I mind so much, I wouldn't have bought D90 (Made in Thailand) and the 10-24 mm...
Of course I did..
Thailand good mah. You never know if your camera is female or male.
Then easy. Get the sigma 10-20. :bsmilie:
Wowz... I never thought about that...I better go check mine laterz... maybe mine's preggy, so I can a freebie... :bsmilie: