ya.. its kinda of hard to decide.. not just concert.. family gathering, party all these.. I need to use a UWA because of space constrain.. but I haf not been able to test my flash with the lens yet.. so its kinda of bothering me about the effect if I were to start using flash if it was to be shot in door. I shoot normally using the 2nd curtain.. Kit lens outcome was fine for me. But then most of the time space constrain is a bother to me cause my kit lens cannot work in a space constrain space especially like homes where Sengkang those kinda of housing.. its just simply too tight for me to take using kit lens when we have furniture all these..
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ya.. its kinda of hard to decide.. not just concert.. family gathering, party all these.. I need to use a UWA because of space constrain.. but I haf not been able to test my flash with the lens yet.. so its kinda of bothering me about the effect if I were to start using flash if it was to be shot in door. I shoot normally using the 2nd curtain.. Kit lens outcome was fine for me. But then most of the time space constrain is a bother to me cause my kit lens cannot work in a space constrain space especially like homes where Sengkang those kinda of housing.. its just simply too tight for me to take using kit lens when we have furniture all these..
kriegsketten
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Agreed, unless you don't mind the perspective distortions (not the barrel or pin-cushion type), 11-16 should work fine.
lolx.. good question.. I duno how it will look like for a human.. =/
I only know how it look like for a building not human..
35mm not possible to take group photo.. :nono:
kriegsketten
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35mm can lah, you never say how big the group is! :bsmilie:
16mm to 24mm is a big 8mm difference dude... at 24mm I already think it is quite wide already. Don't forget some peeps used 20mm for landscapes... that wide okay?
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lolx.. average 12 - 21 if family gathering as of now if i dun include all those below 2 years old as they dun need a space in between..
friends gathering usually about 12+/- range. 35mm I never try before so not very sure what is the max it can cover.. if let's say all quite big size.. 1 row how many people? Those who have the lens can give me a rough estimation..
kriegsketten
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Make more rows lah, front row lie down, second squat / sit on floor. Third row sit on chair (older folks), last row stand... last last row for super tall ones... cannot meh? dun just use two rows lah... Make more rows, surely can one! 20 divided by 5... you only need 4 rows, each row 5 peeps... Or 5 rows, 4 peeps in each row... cannot meh? All of you super big size isit? Hmmm... dun tell me your living room very narrow - how about width/length wise?
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got some issue.. most of uncles or aunties de house is.. rectangle kind de.. the width is like the most.. 4 seater the big sofa length..:sweat:
kriegsketten
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phew... that is wow... small... What kit lens do you have now?
Aiyoh... I don't know why all the worries about zoom range.
In the end, you have to think what other lenses you are going to have also. Having a 17-50/2.8, 11-16/2.8 completes the wide to normal coverage for me. When I bring out the 11-16 to shoot, I will usually only shoot wide. When I know I want to shoot more people, i will just put on the 17-50. 17mm is already wide enough. Both lenses can shoot portrait well if you know how to control the lens.
shot with 11-16
In the end, you have to think what other lenses you are going to have also. Having a 17-50/2.8, 11-16/2.8 completes the wide to normal coverage for me. When I bring out the 11-16 to shoot, I will usually only shoot wide. When I know I want to shoot more people, i will just put on the 17-50. 17mm is already wide enough. Both lenses can shoot portrait well if you know how to control the lens.
shot with 11-16
akerue
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no worries bro, arm ya self with the 300 2.8 or the 70-200 with a monopod, start to up ya panning skills and ya done, hehehhehe......
yup no rush for me.... i only started to like landscapes just recently, due to seeing dd123 and nunumball pics, so so orgasmic(hahahahhaha)
kriegsketten
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Aiyoh... I don't know why all the worries about zoom range.
In the end, you have to think what other lenses you are going to have also. Having a 17-50/2.8, 11-16/2.8 completes the wide to normal coverage for me. When I bring out the 11-16 to shoot, I will usually only shoot wide. When I know I want to shoot more people, i will just put on the 17-50. 17mm is already wide enough. Both lenses can shoot portrait well if you know how to control the lens.
shot with 11-16
That one at 11 or at 16? And how far are you standing, pretty close right?
Edit: oh ya, you said wide... okay!
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lolx.. 18-105mm. with that kind of space.. its hard to shoot family photo leh.. I put all the way to e wall liao still cannot..
hmm... :think: 17/50.. ....:think:Aiyoh... I don't know why all the worries about zoom range.
In the end, you have to think what other lenses you are going to have also. Having a 17-50/2.8, 11-16/2.8 completes the wide to normal coverage for me. When I bring out the 11-16 to shoot, I will usually only shoot wide. When I know I want to shoot more people, i will just put on the 17-50. 17mm is already wide enough. Both lenses can shoot portrait well if you know how to control the lens.
shot with 11-16
kriegsketten
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In that case, go for 11-16mm then, since what DD123 shows pretty okay even wide open
16mm F2.8. Yes quite close.
THink about it, kit lens is only 2mm more mah. If using 17-50, it is only 1mm more. BTW, the slight vignetting is not from the lens. I added it in for effect... ;P
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it seem ok to me.. lolx.. juz a little vignetting..
I added the vignette in bro.. in PP, for more effect. There was no vignetting at all.
lolx.. no wonder.. hahha.. psps..
i didn't think of PP when i saw that photo.. =/
kriegsketten
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Unless DD123 uses a square hood, there shouldn't be a square form of vignetting... you should see curvatures... :bsmilie:
Ok... uploaded a test shot taken with the 11-16 @ F2.8. Large size. No adjustments, only resize. jpeg straight from cam.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4944751982_5f65881362_o.jpg
Shot in relatively low light. ISO 1400, shutter speed 1/30s, F2.8, focal length 11mm, NR on cam set to low.
Remember this is shot at F2.8 with focus point at the speaker on top of the TV. You cannot expect everything in the frame to be sharp.
BTW... paiseh to show my home...
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4944751982_5f65881362_o.jpg
Shot in relatively low light. ISO 1400, shutter speed 1/30s, F2.8, focal length 11mm, NR on cam set to low.
Remember this is shot at F2.8 with focus point at the speaker on top of the TV. You cannot expect everything in the frame to be sharp.
BTW... paiseh to show my home...
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cool.. its quite sharp and lighting is acceptable with that kinda of setting..:think:
lolx.. no issue la bro.. good enough for me.. some more u went an extra mile to show me in low lighting..
I should be happy about it not complain.. ^^
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