D90 get kit lens or just body?
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JC1808
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Hi all,
I also planning to get the d90 but for myself I already got below lens and I dont know should I get just only the body? Even though I got these lens but I am totally a basic beginner in photoshoooting. Most of the time i rely on fully auto... I want to try learn the fun in shooting so I am going to learn and understand more on aperture, speed, explosure etc. to get nice effects.
Tokina lens mount on nikon body
28mm - 200mm (Tokina) <-- T _ T i found moisture on the lens (inside the lens) sad ~~~~~~~~~ argh ~~~~~
28-70mm AT-X PRo (Tokina)
100mm AT-X 1: 2.8 AF 100 MARCO (Tokina)
I also planning to get the d90 but for myself I already got below lens and I dont know should I get just only the body? Even though I got these lens but I am totally a basic beginner in photoshoooting. Most of the time i rely on fully auto... I want to try learn the fun in shooting so I am going to learn and understand more on aperture, speed, explosure etc. to get nice effects.
Tokina lens mount on nikon body
28mm - 200mm (Tokina) <-- T _ T i found moisture on the lens (inside the lens) sad ~~~~~~~~~ argh ~~~~~
28-70mm AT-X PRo (Tokina)
100mm AT-X 1: 2.8 AF 100 MARCO (Tokina)
blue_quartz
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In your case just save the $$$ and get the body only... unless you can find a willing buyer for the 18-105 or any of these lens.
sell the plastic mount lenses...do a search on Kit lens for D80, 18 135mm which is also plastic mount...tons of issues....
tt's nothing wrong with the pictures taken from 18 105...its the quality of the lens...plastic is no good...if good, then why metal for the other more expensive lens??
tt's nothing wrong with the pictures taken from 18 105...its the quality of the lens...plastic is no good...if good, then why metal for the other more expensive lens??
Blur Shadow
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May I know what's so bad about a plastic mount? I mean, the quality, or rather, the lack of, is pretty obvious when compared against a metal mount, but is it a deal breaker? I've used to Nikon 70-300mm G lens, which is a plastic mount. I've had no problems with it. Or have I overlooked something?
No you should not because the widest you can go with your existing lenses is only 28mm which is not wide enough on a DX crop body. 28mm on DX will only give you an angle of view like a 42mm on 135 format.
gymak90
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A plastic mount may not be as durable as a metal mount. There are concerns with plastic mounts that it may break.
For example, there may be wear and tear if you change lenses very frequently. Wear and tear may eventually spoil your plastic mount.
That being said, however, I personally can accept plastic mounts. Plastic does not necessarily mean it is brittle or weak. Handling your lens carefully is more crucial then whether the mount is metal or plastic.
If you camera body is heavy, and lift your cam by holding up the lens, then you're inviting trouble, regardless of a metal or plastic mount.
ZerocoolAstra
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Like you, I also own the 70-300 G lens, which is a plastic mount, like my 18-135.
So far everything has been A-ok.
My assumption is that if someone is the type who changes lens frequently, perhaps there will be some wear and tear after a while, and maybe the lens will feel a bit 'loose' on the cam body.
But my theory is that by the time this happens, it will be quite a long way down the road, and you will have maximised your lens' value by then
So just get a newer model! Then don't have to worry so much about fungus, etc...
So far everything has been A-ok.
My assumption is that if someone is the type who changes lens frequently, perhaps there will be some wear and tear after a while, and maybe the lens will feel a bit 'loose' on the cam body.
But my theory is that by the time this happens, it will be quite a long way down the road, and you will have maximised your lens' value by then
So just get a newer model! Then don't have to worry so much about fungus, etc...
ZerocoolAstra
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when 2 surfaces rub against each other, the weaker/softer material will always wear out first.
So a cam body against a (cheap) plastic-mount lens will cause only the lens to wear out.
However, if BOTH are metal, it's possible that BOTH will eventually wear down a bit.
Can u imagine if the D3 and 24-70 f2.8 mounts both a bit worn down? ~gulp~
So a cam body against a (cheap) plastic-mount lens will cause only the lens to wear out.
However, if BOTH are metal, it's possible that BOTH will eventually wear down a bit.
Can u imagine if the D3 and 24-70 f2.8 mounts both a bit worn down? ~gulp~
Plastic can usually tahan alot of wear and tear.. problem only arise if the lens is heavy, and the body supporting the weight of the lens will put some strain on the mount... for the lightweight 18-105, I don't foresee any problems..
jnet6
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nv encounter since film time both metal mounts.
if u read thro the threads on the 18 135 kit lens, u will realise that it suffer from contact issues (getting strange and errors) from time to time. Think about it. When u pick up ur dslr...how u pick it up?? Via hand grip or via lens barrel?
I sold away my 18 135 mm 1 week after getting my D80 last year...Well, i went and 'touch' the 18 200VR which is metal mount and the feel is so much better and u can say the feel is more confident...
err...I'm not saying plastic mount is all bad....just that given a choice, i will get metal for sure. You gotta to be more delicate and careful when handling plastic mounts..I like ruggedness in my equip...hence all metal
I sold away my 18 135 mm 1 week after getting my D80 last year...Well, i went and 'touch' the 18 200VR which is metal mount and the feel is so much better and u can say the feel is more confident...
err...I'm not saying plastic mount is all bad....just that given a choice, i will get metal for sure. You gotta to be more delicate and careful when handling plastic mounts..I like ruggedness in my equip...hence all metal
ZerocoolAstra
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err...I'm not saying plastic mount is all bad....just that given a choice, i will get metal for sure. You gotta to be more delicate and careful when handling plastic mounts..I like ruggedness in my equip...hence all metal
I think you've sort of contradicted yourself here...
Well, actually I think you made too strong a statement, so now you're trying to back-track.
The point is that the plastic that Nikon uses to manufacture its plastic-mount lenses is not as hard-wearing as the metal, but is that enough of a justification to dismiss the plastic-mount lenses completely? I say no.
If I'm buying a D90, and I don't plan to get any lenses for the short-term future, I'll definitely get the kit lens (plastic), since it's the only lens I'll have. The 18-105VR is fairly light, has pretty good optics, and also good range. AND it's well-priced.
So it can be a good walkabout lens for general photography.
Ultimately the buyer decides if cost is a large enough factor to choose plastic over metal.
The pro who owns many high-end (also heavy) lenses and changes them frequently will of course insist on metal mounts.
The beginner/amateur who seldom changes lenses might prefer the more affordable plastic-mount lenses.
yeah....too strong a statement.
Well, i guess u are right....It all goes down to budget and affordability.
If affordable and got enough dough, i believe everyone would prefer metal mount...minus the weight of metal haha
Happy shooting!
Cheers
blue_quartz
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OT: would it makes sense to use CF for mounts then? 
OT: would it makes sense to use CF for mounts then?
possible, but the cost might goes exorbitant. Hence the plastic vs metal debate.
It production cost vs durability. In this case, Nikon has market this nicely.. you pay for what you get but not sacrifice the make and quality.
For newbie, the kit lens cost is almost a no-brainer.
ZerocoolAstra
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OT: would it makes sense to use CF for mounts then?
I assume you meant CF = carbon fibre
Carbon fibre is STRONG, not hard.
There's a difference (besides the spelling
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