NazgulKing
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Not gonna make it smaller.
D810 - OFFICIAL THREAD
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Not gonna make it smaller.
Hi Yongxin, glad I didn't wait. Now I am on Sony and happier than ever. Just missing Nikon's low light and noise capability. But I will survive anyway. Haha
lunas
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Hey Jace...which version of a7 you got? What do you like about Sony? And what do you miss on Nikon that Sony doesn't have it in the cam?
Hi Yongxin,
A7r
- small and lightweight. I can bring it ard w me.
- smaller and shaper lenses
Cons
- lousy noise. Can't shoot above ISO 400. I miss the noise control on D800
- too little FE lenses to use.
But overall, I m still happy w Sony
lunas
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Hi Jace,
Thank you for the sharing...
That's bad...if you can't even shoot above ISO400; is it because you do print?
What lens did you mount on your A7? Does it balance well with the A7? How's the AF?
lunas
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The reason why I'm hesitant to jump into mirrorless is that I tend to benchmark the 'superiority' of FF camera as the system is very matured in very aspect. The only downside is the weight and size.
If I opt for the smaller mirrorless, I am afraid if I really need to have that shot taken fast, accurately & provide flexibility in my post process workflow; mirrorless might disappoint me. I am truly spoilt by the RAW file D800 provides. The amount of Data I can recover from D800 is unmatched at this point of time, I believe..until the arrival of D810.
A few days ago, I went to MS color to test out OMD-10; I was amazed by the miniature of their lenses. The 9-18mm lens is so small and light.
I think...What I am looking for is a perfect camera that has the spec of D800 yet in a miniature body of OMD-10. I guess for now, it doesn't exist yet...
If I opt for the smaller mirrorless, I am afraid if I really need to have that shot taken fast, accurately & provide flexibility in my post process workflow; mirrorless might disappoint me. I am truly spoilt by the RAW file D800 provides. The amount of Data I can recover from D800 is unmatched at this point of time, I believe..until the arrival of D810.
A few days ago, I went to MS color to test out OMD-10; I was amazed by the miniature of their lenses. The 9-18mm lens is so small and light.
I think...What I am looking for is a perfect camera that has the spec of D800 yet in a miniature body of OMD-10. I guess for now, it doesn't exist yet...
You are right about the slow and lousy AF. It's hard for it to focus on low light. I do miss the sharp AF on D800.
HOWEVER! Sony a7r has the eye focus. It automatically locks on to the eye regardless of how u use it. You no longer have to focus-shift! This is even more superior!! I get even more sharper and accurate shots from the Sony a7r.
About the noise, dynamic range, it fares rather badly. Even in the RAW engine. It's wafer thin. You can't do much pull pushing in post without the files being damage or banding occurring. It forces you to shoot well and expose well.
As u know, I do some printing but majority is digitally imaging. I haven't been able to do much of those w Sony's files. They are crappy. This forces me to shoot really well. (Like when I was using the Hasselblad h4d-50, it made me a lazy photographer. I will wrap up a shoot because I know I can recover the files later. It's a bad habit!)
With the Sony, I have been able to shoot more because it's small and handy. I bring it everywhere I go and I don't even feel the weight. The lenses are sharper than any of the Nikon G lenses I used to own. I am currently using the FE 35 F2.8, FE 55 F1.8 and E mount 16 mm F2.8 (APSC).
I will be using the sony more for video and will be getting the voigtlander 35 mm F1.4 soon.
Overall, I reduced the size and weight of my gears. All those gears that I mentioned above, weights less than 1.2 KG and you can't imagine how little space they occupy. With this, I am able to carry a slider, and a crane for video work. I am also thinking of a second camera body.
The sony IMHO excels also in the timelapse function. I enjoy it much better than the nikon's. The only other issue w the Sony a7r is the battery life which is less than a nikon's. That's because it is more LCD intensive than a D800.
But let's not forget that when u travel, u don't have to pack another Nikon charger that weights 700 grams. With Sony, you just need a cable! 50 grams! You charge the camera directly!
I am glad I didn't wait for D810. With the a7r, I was hoping they do the same with lightweight and size. But they didn't!
HOWEVER! Sony a7r has the eye focus. It automatically locks on to the eye regardless of how u use it. You no longer have to focus-shift! This is even more superior!! I get even more sharper and accurate shots from the Sony a7r.
About the noise, dynamic range, it fares rather badly. Even in the RAW engine. It's wafer thin. You can't do much pull pushing in post without the files being damage or banding occurring. It forces you to shoot well and expose well.
As u know, I do some printing but majority is digitally imaging. I haven't been able to do much of those w Sony's files. They are crappy. This forces me to shoot really well. (Like when I was using the Hasselblad h4d-50, it made me a lazy photographer. I will wrap up a shoot because I know I can recover the files later. It's a bad habit!)
With the Sony, I have been able to shoot more because it's small and handy. I bring it everywhere I go and I don't even feel the weight. The lenses are sharper than any of the Nikon G lenses I used to own. I am currently using the FE 35 F2.8, FE 55 F1.8 and E mount 16 mm F2.8 (APSC).
I will be using the sony more for video and will be getting the voigtlander 35 mm F1.4 soon.
Overall, I reduced the size and weight of my gears. All those gears that I mentioned above, weights less than 1.2 KG and you can't imagine how little space they occupy. With this, I am able to carry a slider, and a crane for video work. I am also thinking of a second camera body.
The sony IMHO excels also in the timelapse function. I enjoy it much better than the nikon's. The only other issue w the Sony a7r is the battery life which is less than a nikon's. That's because it is more LCD intensive than a D800.
But let's not forget that when u travel, u don't have to pack another Nikon charger that weights 700 grams. With Sony, you just need a cable! 50 grams! You charge the camera directly!
I am glad I didn't wait for D810. With the a7r, I was hoping they do the same with lightweight and size. But they didn't!
Just wondering? did you mean ISO 4000?
Nah. I really mean ISO 400. I do a different job than most people. I use images at 300%.
Nikon D800/810 is really good. Sony needs to catch up on this.
Fair enough. It was just a bit curious given they share the same base sensor but everyone's needs are different I guess.
Cheers.
NazgulKing
Senior Member
The files are 11 bit vs 14 bit Nikon Raw.
Stay tuned everyone... in a few more days... watch this space...
lunas
Senior Member
Wah...got what kang tao? New mirrorless fr Nikky? Or contest to win D810?...hehehe
Blur Shadow
Senior Member
Getting excited!
lunas
Senior Member
I see that you are using prime at smaller aperture. That would result in smaller & lighter lens. You don't own the zoom lens..Hence, I doubt you will be doing at anything that requires zoom...such as street. I do a lot of street when I travel; the Nikkor 28 - 300 FX lens is my best companion...but it weight 900gram.. with the D800..it's close to 2kg...but it get the job done perfectly!!!! All the time...just that the weight is bit too heavy.
My final thought is that...only the photographer himself; would know what he wants exactly...as each shooting style and preference differs...If I need to think so hard to get a mirrorless, maybe mirrorless is not for me..Unlike when Nikon announce the D800..I jumped on it immediately without a thought..straight forward..as I know exactly this is what I want...
As for mirrorless, it is good to have..
Yup. You are a great photographer. I know.
So any instrument in your hands is a good tool.
lunas
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Yup. You are a great photographer. I know.
So any instrument in your hands is a good tool.
Thank you for the appreciation for my work
Thank you for the appreciation for my work
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