D800E User Thread
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the most serious moire I have seen so far is from Hardwarezone, in their article "Nikon D800 vs. D800E & The Search for Moire"
from the 6th image on that page, and from the images produced by the D800e that have moire that I have seen thus far, it seems like the pattern in a scene required to generate luminance moire on an image captured by the D800e has to be pretty fine (colour moire is easily removed by various software, luminance by none effectively so far and counting)... and at that level of fineness, it may be seen only in very large prints or deep crops... could be that the pixel density of a sensor has effectively come to a point on the D800e where luminance moire is not as scary as it was in previous cameras without anti-aliasing filters... I have worked on 40MP medium format fashion shots that had killer luminance moire that was plainly unacceptable to use (and was thus referred to me
) so it probably isn't pixel count alone...
YMMV
from the 6th image on that page, and from the images produced by the D800e that have moire that I have seen thus far, it seems like the pattern in a scene required to generate luminance moire on an image captured by the D800e has to be pretty fine (colour moire is easily removed by various software, luminance by none effectively so far and counting)... and at that level of fineness, it may be seen only in very large prints or deep crops... could be that the pixel density of a sensor has effectively come to a point on the D800e where luminance moire is not as scary as it was in previous cameras without anti-aliasing filters... I have worked on 40MP medium format fashion shots that had killer luminance moire that was plainly unacceptable to use (and was thus referred to me
) so it probably isn't pixel count alone... YMMV
very pleased to report that the Zeiss 100mm Makro-Planar performs SUPERBLY on this sensor.
in my opinion, this is a REFERENCE GRADE PRIME LENS and showcases both its stunning resolving abilities and the strength of the 36 MP sensor.
As far as I can tell, no motion blur (I'm sure you can tell that from viewing the image)... so its a fair comparison. just right click and "view image" to see the larger sized version.
As you can see, the lens is pretty much world class by itself - I see negligible differences between wide open at f/2.0 and stopped down f/5.6. This was the 100% of the center of the image, manually focused (the lens i manual focus only) via Live View on a tripod.
NB: There is some slight compression artifacts from the image hoster. It is not there on the original.
in my opinion, this is a REFERENCE GRADE PRIME LENS and showcases both its stunning resolving abilities and the strength of the 36 MP sensor.
As far as I can tell, no motion blur (I'm sure you can tell that from viewing the image)... so its a fair comparison. just right click and "view image" to see the larger sized version.
As you can see, the lens is pretty much world class by itself - I see negligible differences between wide open at f/2.0 and stopped down f/5.6. This was the 100% of the center of the image, manually focused (the lens i manual focus only) via Live View on a tripod.
NB: There is some slight compression artifacts from the image hoster. It is not there on the original.
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You bought a D800E to shoot this?
was only playing with my lens, the D800E ain't mine and unlikely I will get one ....
tomcat
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All taken handheld with the Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G VR Micro. I just love the 105mm for such shots and it now practically lives on my D800E full time. Despite being a macro lens, the autofocussing is so quick and accurate. And the D800E is just great for indoor shooting without flash. I finally do not need to worry about noise from indoor high ISO shots. No cameras I have before including the D700 could give this level of high ISO performance. Just set the camera to Auto ISO and shoot away...
1/100s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 6400
The reflection came out looking better than in real life surprisingly.
1/40s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 6400
This location is so dark that I would not be able to see the subject clearly enough to manually focus if I had needed to. Thank God for autofocus and VR.
1/125s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 5000
1/100s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 6400
The reflection came out looking better than in real life surprisingly.
1/40s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 6400
This location is so dark that I would not be able to see the subject clearly enough to manually focus if I had needed to. Thank God for autofocus and VR.
1/125s f/4.0 at 105.0mm ISO 5000
crazypaladin
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Just to check, anyone happy with the battery performance? A single charge will last me around 700 shots and I know this depends on how one use the camera. My setting was auto preview after every shots.
Yeah I can't get off more than 600-700 because I play with video/live view and review quite a bit as well. Not used to having so few shots (coming from a D7000 and D700) but I bought the battery grip and a spare battery so I don't run out half way.
ummmm, i don't really use the lcd screen, unless its for live view focusing off a tripod (sometimes hand held...) but I wager I've gotten around 900-1000 shots per charge so far. Of course, easier to get more shots if you shoot rapidly over a short period of time too...
Tested the Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon this weekend. Diablo and his minions keeping me quite busy otherwise. I'd say that manual focus with this lens for general photography is not going to be an issue. You do have to watch if the focus is desired on something within 2 to 5 meters... but generally within the constraints of diffraction and stopping down, excellent to outstanding performance can be realized.
ZF.2 21/2.8, D800E, f/7.1, 0.8s off a tripod.
I think it looks good. One thing I've learned with regards to this lens is that even though f/8 has more depth of field, it is still substantially limited, so unless the corners are within the limits of the depth of field, they are not going to come out pixel perfect sharp.
I'd wager that for 3/4s of the frame, it looks excellently sharp. With the profile corrections in Lightroom, the lens probably ends up being around 22 to 22.5mm after the distortion is fixed and the light fall off at the edges at f/2.8 is taken care of.
1/500s, f/7.1
Color, sharpness, contrast, detail all outstanding in typical Zeiss fashion. This shot had the sun on the left side of the image, it was burning hot. So the sky on the left side looks all washed out. Back with older generation digital cameras, most likely the sky will be washed out, recoverable in raw - just a testament to the dynamic range of the sensor. At a per pixel levle, the detail is there, which includes the leaves on the trees on the lower right corner.
1/800s, f/6.3
It remains my opinion, and my honest opinion, that the Leica M9 still captures the nicest blues of all the cameras I've used. Not sure what the folks in Solms did, but it sure captures the vibrancy in skies really well.
I'm testing through my zeiss collection now, and a quick test of all the primes this weekend is indicative that all of them can keep up with the 36MP sensor. 21/2.8, 25/2.0, 35/1.4, 50/2 and 100/2.
Tested the Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon this weekend. Diablo and his minions keeping me quite busy otherwise. I'd say that manual focus with this lens for general photography is not going to be an issue. You do have to watch if the focus is desired on something within 2 to 5 meters... but generally within the constraints of diffraction and stopping down, excellent to outstanding performance can be realized.
ZF.2 21/2.8, D800E, f/7.1, 0.8s off a tripod.
I think it looks good. One thing I've learned with regards to this lens is that even though f/8 has more depth of field, it is still substantially limited, so unless the corners are within the limits of the depth of field, they are not going to come out pixel perfect sharp.
I'd wager that for 3/4s of the frame, it looks excellently sharp. With the profile corrections in Lightroom, the lens probably ends up being around 22 to 22.5mm after the distortion is fixed and the light fall off at the edges at f/2.8 is taken care of.
1/500s, f/7.1
Color, sharpness, contrast, detail all outstanding in typical Zeiss fashion. This shot had the sun on the left side of the image, it was burning hot. So the sky on the left side looks all washed out. Back with older generation digital cameras, most likely the sky will be washed out, recoverable in raw - just a testament to the dynamic range of the sensor. At a per pixel levle, the detail is there, which includes the leaves on the trees on the lower right corner.
1/800s, f/6.3
It remains my opinion, and my honest opinion, that the Leica M9 still captures the nicest blues of all the cameras I've used. Not sure what the folks in Solms did, but it sure captures the vibrancy in skies really well.
I'm testing through my zeiss collection now, and a quick test of all the primes this weekend is indicative that all of them can keep up with the 36MP sensor. 21/2.8, 25/2.0, 35/1.4, 50/2 and 100/2.
ummmm, i don't really use the lcd screen, unless its for live view focusing off a tripod (sometimes hand held...) but I wager I've gotten around 900-1000 shots per charge so far. Of course, easier to get more shots if you shoot rapidly over a short period of time too...
Tested the Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon this weekend. Diablo and his minions keeping me quite busy otherwise. I'd say that manual focus with this lens for general photography is not going to be an issue. You do have to watch if the focus is desired on something within 2 to 5 meters... but generally within the constraints of diffraction and stopping down, excellent to outstanding performance can be realized.
ZF.2 21/2.8, D800E, f/7.1, 0.8s off a tripod.
I think it looks good. One thing I've learned with regards to this lens is that even though f/8 has more depth of field, it is still substantially limited, so unless the corners are within the limits of the depth of field, they are not going to come out pixel perfect sharp.
I'd wager that for 3/4s of the frame, it looks excellently sharp. With the profile corrections in Lightroom, the lens probably ends up being around 22 to 22.5mm after the distortion is fixed and the light fall off at the edges at f/2.8 is taken care of.
1/500s, f/7.1
Color, sharpness, contrast, detail all outstanding in typical Zeiss fashion. This shot had the sun on the left side of the image, it was burning hot. So the sky on the left side looks all washed out. Back with older generation digital cameras, most likely the sky will be washed out, recoverable in raw - just a testament to the dynamic range of the sensor. At a per pixel levle, the detail is there, which includes the leaves on the trees on the lower right corner.
It remains my opinion, and my honest opinion, that the Leica M9 still captures the nicest blues of all the cameras I've used. Not sure what the folks in Solms did, but it sure captures the vibrancy in skies really well.
I'm testing through my zeiss collection now, and a quick test of all the primes this weekend is indicative that all of them can keep up with the 36MP sensor. 21/2.8, 25/2.0, 35/1.4, 50/2 and 100/2.
Just got my Zeiss 18/3.5 . Performs as well as expected . Here is an HDR , against the sun . ( Sorry guys, jpeg compression takes to a lot of details, original tiff look better)
Here an other example
the smudge on the upper right corner is..at pixel level enlargement of more the 400%..actually a bird
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One more to share from this weekends testing. The Zeiss 100mm Makro-Planar is a stunning performer. I wager that you could probably pair a 54+ MP (Maybe D4X?) sensor and it would still perform exceptionally well.
Full frame image - 1/800s, ISO 100 at f/2.0. Yes, shot wide open.
And the 100% below, make sure to view the image directly, this one is a world class macro lens.
I own the Nikon AF-S VR 105/2.8, The Leica R 100/2.8 APO and this Zeiss 100/2.0 and I would say, apart from the APO designation of the Leica which prevents color fringing of the bokeh, the Zeiss is the best of them all. Truly a world class reference lens, and you get f/2.0 at that!
Full frame image - 1/800s, ISO 100 at f/2.0. Yes, shot wide open.
And the 100% below, make sure to view the image directly, this one is a world class macro lens.
I own the Nikon AF-S VR 105/2.8, The Leica R 100/2.8 APO and this Zeiss 100/2.0 and I would say, apart from the APO designation of the Leica which prevents color fringing of the bokeh, the Zeiss is the best of them all. Truly a world class reference lens, and you get f/2.0 at that!
Just got my Zeiss 18/3.5 . Performs as well as expected . Here is an HDR , against the sun . ( Sorry guys, jpeg compression takes to a lot of details, original tiff look better)
[/url] Bgarden190512_HDR2 by AchimReh, on Flickr[/IMG]
hard to imagine ....
Me too.
One more to share from this weekends testing. The Zeiss 100mm Makro-Planar is a stunning performer. I wager that you could probably pair a 54+ MP (Maybe D4X?) sensor and it would still perform exceptionally well.
Full frame image - 1/800s, ISO 100 at f/2.0. Yes, shot wide open.
And the 100% below, make sure to view the image directly, this one is a world class macro lens.
I own the Nikon AF-S VR 105/2.8, The Leica R 100/2.8 APO and this Zeiss 100/2.0 and I would say, apart from the APO designation of the Leica which prevents color fringing of the bokeh, the Zeiss is the best of them all. Truly a world class reference lens, and you get f/2.0 at that!
Yes yes, the 100 Macro Planar , my dream lens . Even Zeiss themselves say , there is nothing sharper .
For my D800E I am working on my handheld techniques to get sharp hend held pictures. I would shoot with live-view on if possible to eliminate mirror slap. On a tripod, get images with maximum dynamic range by shooting at ISO 100 and bracketing. Too bad LR cannot be use to shoot D800 on tethered mode but eye-fi is a good workaround.
natasastra
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Wah? Until so djia lutz huh? If we want to use D800E to shoot event or wedding how?
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