D70 color vs 20D color
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Cheesecake
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tommon said:
welcome back tommy!!!
u returned with a bang! :bsmilie:
er ok la tempus... i do hope that this thread has helped u, but just adding a little more to assist your colour preferences.
I use both systems for my work, (20d, d70, mkII,2Hetc) and to be honest, both systems have their own unique hue and saturation levels.
Although you have the choice of tweaking the pictures via the on board camera settings, on default, Canon gives a slightly "warmer" feel to its shots, (IMHO) with nikon having a hue closer to the NPH series of Fuji's film.
As one of the CSers above mentioned, you'll almost definitely need to post process every shot taken to suit your own taste, and equipment envy is definitely not the way to go here...
Check the camera manual, shoot more, read more, go try the 20d (borrow) and just a suggestion, try the s2pro. :thumbsup:
Make the system work for u, and avoid dumping/switching systems so easily as you'll soon realize that it's money flying down the wrong road. :nono:
I use both systems for my work, (20d, d70, mkII,2Hetc) and to be honest, both systems have their own unique hue and saturation levels.
Although you have the choice of tweaking the pictures via the on board camera settings, on default, Canon gives a slightly "warmer" feel to its shots, (IMHO) with nikon having a hue closer to the NPH series of Fuji's film.
As one of the CSers above mentioned, you'll almost definitely need to post process every shot taken to suit your own taste, and equipment envy is definitely not the way to go here...
Check the camera manual, shoot more, read more, go try the 20d (borrow) and just a suggestion, try the s2pro. :thumbsup:
Make the system work for u, and avoid dumping/switching systems so easily as you'll soon realize that it's money flying down the wrong road. :nono:
I think it all boils down to preferences and tweaking your camera to achieve the desired effects. Btw, I think a good set of lenses and proper metering also play a part. :think:
Again, it always comes down to a battle between Nikon and Canon, so where does that leave KM, Pentax and the rest of the DSLRs. What will the order of ranking be in your line-up on colour production?
Again, it always comes down to a battle between Nikon and Canon, so where does that leave KM, Pentax and the rest of the DSLRs. What will the order of ranking be in your line-up on colour production?
From personal experience, I used to be dismayed when I first got my D70 and took the first couple hundred shots only to find the colours washed out and not to my liking. However, I've since learned that it was due to my lack of understanding of how my equipment worked as well as things like the time of day I shot at (noon with bright sun shining) :embrass:
You'll only get better the more you shoot and experiment. Equipment is very seldom to be blamed but our own lack of understanding. Hope this helps
You'll only get better the more you shoot and experiment. Equipment is very seldom to be blamed but our own lack of understanding. Hope this helps
Jemapela
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Tempus said:
Hi Tempus,
Using Adobe RGB is not the right solution!!
It's true that this colour space is wider than sRGB but if you turn to page 56 of the EOS 20D instruction manual, a paragraph there could explain why you see subdued colours on your screen. Yes, the word "subdued" was actually used on that page 56.
It's perhaps quite common sense why Adobe RGB profile images would appear subdued on PCs (which use sRGB).
Many times I noticed people putting questions on forums which could be answered by reading up more -- instruction manual or technical reports. However, there's a wealth of information out there, and it's impossible to read them all, and difficult to filter the facts from myth.
Just read more.
snowspeeder
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With the recent introduction of the D70s in the market, there are bound to be many new users whom after getting this camera, will be puzzled (or disappointed) by the color of their images that come straight out of the camera.
A good analogy would be a sports car. Anybody can get behind the wheels and drive a sports car. Question is how well. Simply stepping on ths gas pedal and fiddling with the gears of the vehicle is far from adequate to really master the controls of the car. It is important to thoroughly gain an understanding on the intricate details of the vehicle (eg. engines, brakes, suspension, etc.), and getting a feel of how the car will perform under various conditions.
Likewise, it is very much the same when it comes to a DSLR. People buy it becos they heard a lot of good things about the cam. It can work wonders...but its not a magical device that churns out stunning pics without first knowing how to make it work for you.
I've been using the D70 for almost 6 months already. And after 12K images, I'm still discovering new things about this trustworthy cam who has yet to fail me. And if it does, its my bad.
A good analogy would be a sports car. Anybody can get behind the wheels and drive a sports car. Question is how well. Simply stepping on ths gas pedal and fiddling with the gears of the vehicle is far from adequate to really master the controls of the car. It is important to thoroughly gain an understanding on the intricate details of the vehicle (eg. engines, brakes, suspension, etc.), and getting a feel of how the car will perform under various conditions.
Likewise, it is very much the same when it comes to a DSLR. People buy it becos they heard a lot of good things about the cam. It can work wonders...but its not a magical device that churns out stunning pics without first knowing how to make it work for you.
I've been using the D70 for almost 6 months already. And after 12K images, I'm still discovering new things about this trustworthy cam who has yet to fail me. And if it does, its my bad.
chisiang
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When it comes to colour reproduction, I think most DSLRs (except pro level and the Fuji S2/3 pro), they are more or less the same when sensor is concerned.
THe rest is up to the pieces of glasses that send those colours to your sensors.
From my personal experiences, I used to use brand XXXX lenses and XXXX brand filters. The photos that came out of looked like it was printed 10 years ago, dull and boring. Then I started to spend long hours boosting the colours and saturation.
However, the change came when I first bought my first, so called "expensive lense", the 70-200. Close my eyes and just BUY! The opportunity cost is very high but satisfying.
Same style of shooting, same finger, same face behind the camera. But wow! The colour is vivid! The next lense that follow was again one of those $$$ lense, 17-35, and colours are lively!
These days, I believe strongly in the quality of the lense. Back in the film days, you can't blame your camera for the poor colours, but blame the choice of film and filters, and the aunty sitting at the lab. With digital, every1 is blaming the camera body! :nono:
Keep shooting!
THe rest is up to the pieces of glasses that send those colours to your sensors.
From my personal experiences, I used to use brand XXXX lenses and XXXX brand filters. The photos that came out of looked like it was printed 10 years ago, dull and boring. Then I started to spend long hours boosting the colours and saturation.
However, the change came when I first bought my first, so called "expensive lense", the 70-200. Close my eyes and just BUY! The opportunity cost is very high but satisfying.
Same style of shooting, same finger, same face behind the camera. But wow! The colour is vivid! The next lense that follow was again one of those $$$ lense, 17-35, and colours are lively!
These days, I believe strongly in the quality of the lense. Back in the film days, you can't blame your camera for the poor colours, but blame the choice of film and filters, and the aunty sitting at the lab. With digital, every1 is blaming the camera body! :nono:
Keep shooting!
Tempus said:
I think the point is about how well you know your equipment, not what you use your equipment for. Regardless of car, camera, etc, this point is always relevant.
Nikon has the same image quality controls as other camera brands. On top of that, it has the custom curves. All these, you'll find out as you use your camera more and more, or read the manual
Enjoy your camera!
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