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moos blues
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sorry to go out of topic...
but why when canon puts a simple command dial onto thier cams, and i defend it i get flamed... and canon makes a DSRL i.e 300D and ppl rush for it, making that particuliar person who saw it fed up that canon are coning average users, and i too get flamed for defending it. And like other flames for like EF-S mount....is there no AF-DX series of lenes?... shrugz..
Now with the D70, why dont i see such criticisms? :dunno:
i say this not to put the cam down, just want to speak to another class of "idiots"... telling them its not worth flaming or over-zealous brand bias over stupid reasons like a simple command dial and insist that canon is treating their users like kids. the rest i shant comment as its a waste of time.
I hope Nikon's move with the D70 would put the camera business into abit more of persepctive. I know my comments are brief and apologise in not fully explaining myslef, but my main aim here is not to nit-pick at what was said, but targeted those who have passed such thoughtless comments. Hopefully now they would have more to think about than just flames.
anyway, i've used the D70 and its good. but picts turn out bad when was used with a SB28DX
so i guess the S800 is the flash solution...
sorry for the OT... thanks for your time.
:lovegrin:
but why when canon puts a simple command dial onto thier cams, and i defend it i get flamed... and canon makes a DSRL i.e 300D and ppl rush for it, making that particuliar person who saw it fed up that canon are coning average users, and i too get flamed for defending it. And like other flames for like EF-S mount....is there no AF-DX series of lenes?... shrugz..
Now with the D70, why dont i see such criticisms? :dunno:
i say this not to put the cam down, just want to speak to another class of "idiots"... telling them its not worth flaming or over-zealous brand bias over stupid reasons like a simple command dial and insist that canon is treating their users like kids. the rest i shant comment as its a waste of time.
I hope Nikon's move with the D70 would put the camera business into abit more of persepctive. I know my comments are brief and apologise in not fully explaining myslef, but my main aim here is not to nit-pick at what was said, but targeted those who have passed such thoughtless comments. Hopefully now they would have more to think about than just flames.
anyway, i've used the D70 and its good. but picts turn out bad when was used with a SB28DX
so i guess the S800 is the flash solution... sorry for the OT... thanks for your time.
:lovegrin:
and besides this is the nikon forums. snaggs said:There have been zillions of rumours, mis-information and bulldang spread around the place on the D70. I just wanted to confirm, that its all rubbish and most of these people have
1) No idea what theyre talking about
2) Never print anything out on a decent printer at anything larger than 5x4
3) Dont even have the camera
4) Dont even know how to use a camera
I just got a chemical print of my rose shot at 10x15 at a good lab/camera store here in perth, which has a Fuji Frontier. They commented on the shot and especially the sky. They asked how I'd photoshopped it soo well it was so clean. They were astounded when I said it was just normal sky, straight out of the camera.
So for those all scared about the rumours, and rubbish, and should I wait till later. Don't be silly, you can buy with confidence and will be a much better photographer in 3 months for the experience gained.
Daniel.
Right, so we should all follow your advice and buy one right away. Thanks.
Minoxman said:
Buy something, even a Canon 300D, you'll learn more taking and posting photos in the forum than agonising over irrelevant details was my point. I'm not expecting people to agree with everything I say, just some comments which have been made have been just too wrong.
Lets have more photos! Actuallty, maybe thats my mistake, this is the gear discussion forum, maybe its me who's off topic ?
Daniel.
AFS-DX can be used on any current Nikon SLR/DSLR camera - on SLR you'd see black area at the corners.moos blues said:
EFS - I heard it's only for 300D? what's the purpose?
without any bias, one would see AFS DX has better advantage than EFS for Nikon & Canon respectively.
So, comments about EFS is not thoughtless at all.
Do you use Auto mode? in auto mode there's no balanced fill flash, so you'd have to balance it yourself using the flash compensation.moos blues said:i say this not to put the cam down, just want to speak to another class of "idiots"... telling them its not worth flaming or over-zealous brand bias over stupid reasons like a simple command dial and insist that canon is treating their users like kids. the rest i shant comment as its a waste of time.
I hope Nikon's move with the D70 would put the camera business into abit more of persepctive. I know my comments are brief and apologise in not fully explaining myslef, but my main aim here is not to nit-pick at what was said, but targeted those who have passed such thoughtless comments. Hopefully now they would have more to think about than just flames.
anyway, i've used the D70 and its good. but picts turn out bad when was used with a SB28DX
sorry for the OT... thanks for your time.
:lovegrin:
Like what majere2sg said, this is a Nikon forum. Do you expect us to hate Nikon? :bsmilie: In any case, erwinx came in fully knowing the consequences. Look at mpensa, do we flame him?moos blues said:sorry to go out of topic...
but why when canon puts a simple command dial onto thier cams, and i defend it i get flamed... and canon makes a DSRL i.e 300D and ppl rush for it, making that particuliar person who saw it fed up that canon are coning average users, and i too get flamed for defending it. And like other flames for like EF-S mount....is there no AF-DX series of lenes?... shrugz..
Now with the D70, why dont i see such criticisms? :dunno:
i say this not to put the cam down, just want to speak to another class of "idiots"... telling them its not worth flaming or over-zealous brand bias over stupid reasons like a simple command dial and insist that canon is treating their users like kids. the rest i shant comment as its a waste of time.
I hope Nikon's move with the D70 would put the camera business into abit more of persepctive. I know my comments are brief and apologise in not fully explaining myslef, but my main aim here is not to nit-pick at what was said, but targeted those who have passed such thoughtless comments. Hopefully now they would have more to think about than just flames.
anyway, i've used the D70 and its good. but picts turn out bad when was used with a SB28DX
sorry for the OT... thanks for your time.
:lovegrin:
As for the EF-S vs DX lenses, the number of lenses (4 incl 17-55 released in UK already), the number of bodies that can support it and backward and expected forward compatibilities speaks for itself: D1 till D70.
Take the 12-24DX. Canon has nothing on the drawing board for this. The lens can be used on any full frame camera (from F4 onwards that support G lenses) from 18-24, with the quality rivalling primes. List price: S$1999. For Canon, a 20mm + 24 mm prime cost $1000 + $2800 although, I have to admit, they have f/2.8 and f/1.4 respectively. But when using the lens on landscape, the extra f-stop is not utilized...wibawa said:
Watcher said:At least his advice is to take more photos... :thumbsup:He even criticized those picky D70 buyers, calling them "idiots" for the issue on the dust. I have yet to seen such fair criticism from YOU regarding users and camera that you support...
That is why I said I will follow his advice and buy one straight after work today. I don't wan to be an idiot mah.
moos blues
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alrite.. thanks for the replies... =) lets see what canon does with the EF-S then... haha... maybe more cheap lenses to hacksaw at.. shrugz.
as for the auto mode... i dunt have the cam with me anymore.. was trying it out with a friend.. anywaes he's getting a SB800 hahaha.. thats leaves more time to shoot than to try to get the flash right...
ciao
:lovegrin:
as for the auto mode... i dunt have the cam with me anymore.. was trying it out with a friend.. anywaes he's getting a SB800 hahaha.. thats leaves more time to shoot than to try to get the flash right...
ciao
:lovegrin:
I think everyone appreciates empirical honesty. Might you tell me where you get that info from above? cos afaik, eg; if shooting in raw, you're getting whatever the CMOS sensor detects, ie: no in camera processing, if there's no in camera processing, how can it be said that it blurs the image?
and any in-camera processing via custom parameters is to increase sharpness, not decrease it.
*ps: edit: of course, going by canon's marketing on the website, even at raw mode, it should be doing two other things, noise reduction and "high resolution processing"
http://www.canon.com.sg/index.cfm?fuseaction=digitalcamera&prod_type=technology
so could that be what you mean... I wouldn't call it blur though.
http://www.planetneil.com/nikon/d100-ccd-cleaning.html
The dust is actually on the Anti-Aliasing Filter over the CCD, and not the CCD itself. This filter in the D100 is closer to the sensor than it is to the CMOS sensor of the Canon 10D, which is why the Nikon D100 shows up dust spots more readily.
And just as an aside, the CCD doesn't attract more dust than a CMOS device would. It's a myth that the CCD creates a static charge that attracts dust.
robinchee
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mpenza said:
True, but when you need to change settings fast and shoot fast, that will slow you down. For what I shot, I can't afford that slow down.
Anyway, I just got my D70, dx18-70 and sb800 yesterday from cp. Went thru 4 lens to find one that was clean enough inside. One lens was really bad, with obvious multiple small circles, much like a soft focus filter.
funksoulava
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Watcher said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the F4 doesn't support G lenses as it doesn't have any command dials.
funksoulava said:
You are absolutely right.
Erm.. I don't think anyone would buy a f1.4 lens for the purpose of landscape shooting. Would anyone buy the Nikon 28mm f1.8 for landscape? Or is it to answer some other need like low light shots?watcher said:
Why don't u just use the 17-40L as a comparison instead.
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