D600 Full Frame announced! (not official yet)

[pachero]

if D600 really reaches the shores of sg, prepare to see D700 price drop in BnS section from S$2k++ to S$1k++ very fast like tsunami!

Prices of DSLR will definitely drop over time, so there's really no need for owners of any camera, be it D700 or D3100, to be overly worried. The only people who needs to worry about price drop are commercial sellers who buys in bulk.

 

[Blur Shadow]

You get my vote, viewfinders are for pussies.

If you are a Nikon user, this also means that you are depriving yourself of a wonderful technology called Phase detection Auto focus.

And I'd be mighty impressed if you can capture fast moving subjects using just the live view. I certainly cannot.

 

[george671]

Its done all the time by sports photographers...and of course old school photogs like me...just prefocus and fire away manually...Many do not even frame with the view finder, though it takes considerable practice...Gotta remember we did not have autofocus back in the day...but of course its easier with the AF systems used now...

 

[fmeeran]

I rather hope it has no VF at all. flat top is sexier
give me flip screen, I only shot from LCD.

Sure. Whatever floats YOUR boat.

 

[ageha]

If you are a Nikon user, this also means that you are depriving yourself of a wonderful technology called Phase detection Auto focus.

And I'd be mighty impressed if you can capture fast moving subjects using just the live view. I certainly cannot.

lol, I guess you are only familiar with Nikon. Phase detection has been available in live view for years.

 

[lunas]

This is the year of Nikon!

 

[daredevil123]

lol, I guess you are only familiar with Nikon. Phase detection has been available in live view for years.

Only with translucent mirror... or a LV cam in the prism/penta-mirror box. Both thanks to Sony.

 

[Blur Shadow]

lol, I guess you are only familiar with Nikon. Phase detection has been available in live view for years.

Hey pal. I think it only works with Sony SLT technology.

I'm only assuming that since you responded in a Nikon sub forum, you are referring to Nikon cameras.

 

[Blur Shadow]

Its done all the time by sports photographers...and of course old school photogs like me...just prefocus and fire away manually...Many do not even frame with the view finder, though it takes considerable practice...Gotta remember we did not have autofocus back in the day...but of course its easier with the AF systems used now...

Yes. I am aware of the old school days. Especially when couple with film, you really cannot just spam the shots like today.

Gotta admit. A lot more skill was involved then.

 

[ageha]

or a LV cam in the prism/penta-mirror box. Both thanks to Sony.

I think Olympus was first.

Hey pal. I think it only works with Sony SLT technology.

No.

 

[UncleFai]

Hey pal. I think it only works with Sony SLT technology.

I'm only assuming that since you responded in a Nikon sub forum, you are referring to Nikon cameras.

Phase detection is the default focusing method in most DSLR.

For Nikon, you have something like: Nikon | Imaging Products | D3S | D3X - Specifications

"Nikon Multi-CAM 3500FX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection"

 

[Blur Shadow]

I think Olympus was first.

No.

May I know which Olympus models are phase detection auto focus implemented for exclusive use with the live view technology?

I am aware of their patents, but I am not aware of any actual implementation. Perhaps you can correct my ignorance.

 

[ageha]

May I know which Olympus models are phase detection auto focus implemented for exclusive use with the live view technology?

I am aware of their patents, but I am not aware of any actual implementation. Perhaps you can correct my ignorance.

E-330, a DSLR from 2006: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330

 

[UncleFai]

Phase detection is the default focusing method in most DSLR.

For Nikon, you have something like: Nikon | Imaging Products | D3S | D3X - Specifications

"Nikon Multi-CAM 3500FX autofocus sensor module with TTL phase detection"

Oh I mistaken the question... in any case, in some Nikon cameras, phase detection is available in liveview - Nikon D300s review | DSLR reviews: Digital SLR reviews, tests and specifications | Amateur Photographer

 

[Blur Shadow]

E-330, a DSLR from 2006: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330

Hmm... I presume you are talking about the B mode? I am too knowledgable in the camera, but the implementation does seem to be of a compromise? The mirror flips down to auto focus to flip up again? Sounds slow to me. I guess it is fine for casual posed shots.

 

[edutilos-]

Hmm... I presume you are talking about the B mode? I am too knowledgable in the camera, but the implementation does seem to be of a compromise? The mirror flips down to auto focus to flip up again? Sounds slow to me. I guess it is fine for casual posed shots.

I looked through - should be A mode...

The light is directed to the small CCD sensor.

The implementation supposed to be a refinement of the setup in the earlier E-10, which is supposedly a FAIL model: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse10

 

[Blur Shadow]

I looked through - should be A mode...

The light is split to the small CCD sensor so it is sort of similar to how the translucent mirror thingy works in the Sony SLTs.

Oh. Read it too. Live view is available on both modes. A rather complex mechanism. I see. But this system wasn't carried forward to newer models because...?

And what is the real world implementation like? Is the auto focus fast?

 

[ageha]

Hmm... I presume you are talking about the B mode? I am too knowledgable in the camera, but the implementation does seem to be of a compromise? The mirror flips down to auto focus to flip up again? Sounds slow to me. I guess it is fine for casual posed shots.

I mean A Mode (full-time live view) with PDAF, only in B Mode (macro live view) the mirror flips up.

Oh. Read it too. Live view is available on both modes. A rather complex mechanism. I see. But this system wasn't carried forward to newer models because...?

And what is the real world implementation like? Is the auto focus fast?

Lots of Sony Alpha DSLR bodies had an improved implementaion of it. The AF is as fast as through the viewfinder, exactly the same PDAF CMOS sensor is doing the job in both modes.

 

[denzelwng4]

I mean A Mode (full-time live view) with PDAF, only in B Mode (macro live view) the mirror flips up.



Lots of Sony Alpha DSLR bodies had an improved implementaion of it. The AF is as fast as through the viewfinder, exactly the same PDAF CMOS sensor is doing the job in both modes.

agree on this one, Sony Alpha AF speed thru viewfinder is relatively the same...

 

[yyD70S]

This "rumoured D600 FX-format DSLR" is looking real as time passes...

AFS 50mm f1.8G, AFS 28mm f1.8G & now AFS 24-85mm f3.5-4.5G VR; besides updating all their lenses, surely these 3 lenses will do little to tickle owners of the D4/D800Es ... :think: