d2h vs d70

[2100]

:bsmilie: :bsmilie: :bsmilie: sure or not?

Aiyah brudder, zhun lar. I am talking only about pure resolution tests and stuff (ie measurbation, which is taboo to some :bsmilie: )....alright so it may be a bit bo liao but it's interesting to know. I would not be too concerned more than some A/B compario of resolution tests (eg, nature of noise, level of noise, chrominance type of noise etc), since they are different cams designed for different usage. Moreover, maybe it would be pretty rare to have a 828 or similar shooting in reality beside a D2H, i guess.

D2H, with 50/1.4 prime, dun pray pray....
Horiz LPH 1400 * 1600
Vert LPH 1200 * 1550
5° Diagonal LPH 1000 n/a

F828, with super 28-200 zoom....
Horizontal LPH 1650 * 1950
Vertical LPH 1550 1950
5° Diagonal LPH 1000 n/a

 

[2100]

Most good cam can produce good picture in good lighting. Pro cam can churn out good photo at difficult situation, as long as the handled by capable photog.

No worries mate. I am aware of the performance characteristics of differing sizes of sensors with regards to real world shooting conditions, and not forgetting lenses and stuff etc...

 

[kongg]

Wow, machum like comparing durian to a rambutan leh.

 

[2100]

Wow, machum like comparing durian to a rambutan leh.

Both still can makan and enjoy!

 

[mpenza]

I like durain and rambutan ;p oops, this is getting off topic.

But one thing is if the resolution is already good enough for the output required, you don't really need more. I see little need to go beyond 3MP for most people (casual shooters). Back when using film, few of us enlarge past 8Rs anyway.

 

[AJ23]

What's the obsession with megapixel count and resolution resolving power? Go shoot more pictures!

 

[2100]

What's the obsession with megapixel count and resolution resolving power? Go shoot more pictures!

Heh....think we have more than enough galleries here in CS for that. Besides, if we don't talk about this kind of techy yet uncommon stuff here in Nikon forum (which is a tech forum anyway), i think this will be pretty much a ghost town. At least we have mpenza, a Canon user, contributing too. As for 35mm film, much has been perfected years ago for this amateur format and lots of info can be found on the search engines, so nothing much to talk anyway.

How about Nikon Medium format? Who wants? :bsmilie:

 

[AJ23]

How about Nikon Medium format? Who wants? :bsmilie:

Nikon got medium format meh?

 

[glennyong]

i think Nikon wouldnt want to be in a postition in a way that to compete with the Pros in this field la.. but Nikon can produce a camera which can rival Hasselblad, Mamiya at a much lower price, better bulid, and of course.. the majesty of the Nikon Body and the legendary NIKON logo.... :bsmilie:

but will be sure on the high side on the terms of pricing.. the cheapest Hasselblad i can find still cost $7.5k at a promotion.... so i think Nikon would produce a M.Format camera at such a price.. maybe something like $10 over K ??? hahah well dunno on that....

and Hasselblad uses Environmentally Friendly lens remember ?
Carl T. Tessar Zeis lens.. hahha <-- did i get it right ?? hhahaa :bsmilie:

 

[espn]

First you compare a rambutan and durian and say that both can be king of fruits, next you claim that you are only interested in how well the fruit taste, and not the size and cost, then you claim that you know that each fruit is grown in different environment and is eaten in different manners.

So which is which? :dunno:

 

[2100]

First you compare a rambutan and durian and say that both can be king of fruits, next you claim that you are only interested in how well the fruit taste, and not the size and cost, then you claim that you know that each fruit is grown in different environment and is eaten in different manners.

So which is which? :dunno:

Is this directed to me? Looks like you are taking issue with what i say and how my photog acquaintances work.

 

[espn]

Is this directed to me? Looks like you are taking issue with what i say and how my photog acquaintances work.

You've been stepping on your feet since the first reply. So I'm just wondering, which part of it is what you intentionally want to say or mean, cos I'm pretty confused & so I just summarise and ask, don't have to get so uptight & defensive.

I have no problems with the way your photogs works, everybody works differently, just like I know of a professional who shoots with a 600/4 for portraits. So who's stopping them?

 

[2100]

You've been stepping on your feet since the first reply. So I'm just wondering, which part of it is what you intentionally want to say or mean, cos I'm pretty confused & so I just summarise and ask, don't have to get so uptight & defensive.

Alright, apologies if i seemed uptight. I do believe i have (and others also) put in enough smilies in all of my other replies to keep it light natured, cannot help it if i seemed to be incoherent in my posts. If I am not wrong, this "d2h vs d70" post is part humour and part techy. I pulled in F828 just for fun. Anyway, to set it straight -

- My first reply to you, F828 outresolves D2H in bright lights (ie able to use good ISO). Verifiable on dpreview.

- 2ndly, reply to zekai since he doubted me in a humourous way.... i replied that i was talking about measurbated figures (ie res charts). There is more to it.

- 3rdly to knighthunter, i mentioned there is more to it.

- fourthly to kongg, just tongue in cheek.

- last reply about Nikon MF, just joking about it. I hope i am able to joke here even though i may sound incoherent. Others do it here too.....

Generally, what i am trying to put through is that for details, while 100% output of 6mp/D70 and 8mp/F828 may not be as good as 100% of D2H, when printed to a standard normalized size like 8x12", the D2H's 4mp good output may still be lacking in details though D2H good areas like shadow details are good etc... Though i may sound like as if i am shooting myself in the foot with my reply to zekai, i did mention that this is still interesting to know even if it is a bit bo liao comparing different classes of cams. The original thread itself IS comparing 2 different classes of cams, hope i am correct in this.

 

[smallaperture]

Hi there


Ima new D2H user and im sharing the links below to add food for thought. Its not always about the megapixels..

If 4.3Mp could be that good with an APS size sensor, then, imaging having a Full-frame 4.3Mp sensor would do wonders - where you make use ofthe full total resolution of your lens! High pixel count slows down the processing enormously, like the tortoise like Kodak DCS. So, I think low, but quality pixel is the way to go, and then pump up the pixel if you need to by some smart interpolation. Actually, for most use, 4.3Mp is largely inuf. :bsmilie:

 

[AJ23]

Generally, what i am trying to put through is that for details, while 100% output of 6mp/D70 and 8mp/F828 may not be as good as 100% of D2H, when printed to a standard normalized size like 8x12", the D2H's 4mp good output may still be lacking in details though D2H good areas like shadow details are good etc... Though i may sound like as if i am shooting myself in the foot with my reply to zekai, i did mention that this is still interesting to know even if it is a bit bo liao comparing different classes of cams. The original thread itself IS comparing 2 different classes of cams, hope i am correct in this.

One of these days I must show you the 13"x19" output from the 4MP JPEG output.

 

[espn]

One of these days I must show you the 13"x19" output from the 4MP JPEG output.

Careful there, I remembered seeing/hearing somebody say that anything above 12R is very taxing on a DSLR. Perhaps ur 13 x 19 must be done using MF?

 

[AJ23]

Careful there, I remembered seeing/hearing somebody say that anything above 12R is very taxing on a DSLR. Perhaps ur 13 x 19 must be done using MF?

Err... hmm...oohh...ah... :X

 

[Kenji]

And Nikon use the word "Breed" of D2h.