CS bicycles and cyclist thread II


Anyone riding a Strida? :bsmilie:
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strida is one of the worst designed foldable bike ever... imagine a guy using it, then due to a hazard in front & he needs to e-brake very hard... what would happen?

no more father's day!
 

There are some nice long stretches of PCN. However, there are also stretches that are rubbish. Why I say rubbish.

1) There are some stretches found in housing estates that detour round every trees. I find it so stupid that I wondered who came up with the idea. It is fun to push baby prams around these trees but to cycle in a UUUUU manner is crazy.
2) The PCN sometimes makes you cycle on the left side of the road then cross at junction and then continue on the other side of the road and then cross at juncture and returned to the same side of the road. Ride, stop, ride, stop. Fun meh?
3) Some of the bicycle and pedestrian lanes are side by side and quite narrow so you have predestrians on the bicycle lanes and bicycle on pedestrian lane which again meant ride, stop, ride, stop.

I find these stretches of PCN to be a waste of money. Really, it is so much fun to cycle on long stretches of road than PCN.

Many of these PCNs are not well maintained. The northern PCN which I used to frequent had horrible stretches strewn with moss and fallen branches u'd need mtb wheels to blaze through them. The unmaintained cracks or irregular paving especially when it gets near towns are horrible for road bike wheels. ALL my pinch flat incidents were thanks to PCN stretches. I fell once in tampines because it was so packed and the lady cycling her rental bike swerved her bike suddenly and I could not uncleat in time.

The other roads ( not PCN ) that I enjoyed previously when i was staying north were the thompson-mandai , old Woodlands-Kranji. Used to do them in afternoons when my shift work schedule permits. Nowadays to save all troubles and pain, the only stretch I cycle would be the east coast changi road stretch. More than 400km clocked with no tyre incidents yet...
 

strida is one of the worst designed foldable bike ever... imagine a guy using it, then due to a hazard in front & he needs to e-brake very hard... what would happen?

no more father's day!

I own one and so far, i think its just a rumor, you'll fly in front instead of jamming your "father's day". hahaha!
 

cycling on road is more fun once your overcome your fear. i also dont cycle pcn no more, reasons same as above.
 

cycling on road is more fun once your overcome your fear. i also dont cycle pcn no more, reasons same as above.

Road bikes with their super thin tires will find the road more suitable especially when there are less traffic. For the beginners who can't even balance properly on their road bikes, PCN is the best place for them to practice. They will soon learn the essential skills of changing flat tires because thin tires go flat more often.

For recreational riding to have fun and some exercise, going to different places and feeling the breeze riding a MTB will be ideal. The bike is more flexible, comfortable to ride. And using lighter and thinner tires they can just go faster not to the point of racing but to keep up the pace with the rest of the cyclists and not worrying you are always left behind. You seldom heard of a flat tire from MTB riders when they are careful not to create opportunities for such. The PCN is built for both jogging, walking and even riding slowly on your bikes. In two or three years, the govt will let us ride around - for PCN will have the whole island turned into a cyclist's paradise, one that all riders will be proud of. So folks, enjoy riding and learn from the more experienced folks who do recreational riding and also helping others to enjoy this very special activity of cycling.

Racing cyclists are more concern about their speed, stamina and what more, their own performance. Only the leaders will care about the concern, safety, welfare and overall well being of all concern including the cyclists of all ages. Let gives the authorities a big clap and a hat for their support and their sincere attempt to have our dreams come true.
 

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Road bikes with their super thin tires will find the road more suitable especially when there are less traffic. For the beginners who can't even balance properly on their road bikes, PCN is the best place for them to practice. They will soon learn the essential skills of changing flat tires because thin tires go flat more often.

Actually learning to cycle road bikes on PCN can be really treacherous when there are many other users. The last time I tried on car park spaces to practice. Not too different from normal cycling except the a*se up and a little less stable inherently. Cleats another story.

Just make sure to pump the tyres before every ride.
 

most of the folks would perfer cycling lane on road. can cycle to work or anywhere. would want cycling as a daily routing and avoid taking public transport.
 

Building extra width on existing road will need $ so who will pay for it? It will be good to have all cyclist to register to get a number plate and pay road tax too it's just fair nothing is free in this world :)
 

most of the folks would perfer cycling lane on road. can cycle to work or anywhere. would want cycling as a daily routing and avoid taking public transport.

I am not sure if Singaporeans will take up cycling en masse.. it's hot and humid, and dangerous, and I don't fancy a mouthful of smoke and pollutants.. I restrict my cycling to the Pierce area, and I will have a look at the PCN this weekend...
 

airfins said:
Building extra width on existing road will need $ so who will pay for it? It will be good to have all cyclist to register to get a number plate and pay road tax too it's just fair nothing is free in this world :)

What if they are not cyclist? They are just normal people who cycle to work but use the road. Do they need pay road tax too?

No offense bro, but seeing everyone 'bombarding' the cyclist with "roadtax" statement really tires me off.

Its like whoever use the road, pay road tax.
Geez.
 

Just got myself back on the bike since ive stopped riding like 2years ago...

Definitely miss the old time.
Now due to injury and phobia, dont dare to do trails.
:)
 

Building extra width on existing road will need $ so who will pay for it? It will be good to have all cyclist to register to get a number plate and pay road tax too it's just fair nothing is free in this world :)

no need extra width..no need to rebuild....just repaint, many roads are wide enough. LTA excuse was, not enough land..so lame..

some other cities are smaller than SG also got bicycle lane..

hot / humid? bangkok even worst...and they have the cycling lane.

the question is whether LTA want to do it or not. lazy to do it? doesn't benefit to stakeholders? doesn't improve revenue?
 

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no need extra width..no need to rebuild....just repaint, many roads are wide enough. LTA excuse was, not enough land..so lame..

hot / humid? bangkok even worst...and they have the cycling lane.


the question is whether LTA want to do it or not. lazy to do it? doesn't benefit to stakeholders? doesn't improve revenue?

In Bangkok, they have no choice bro... cars are too costly for the poor and the traffic jams are awful. Here, people don't like to go into their workplace, shopping centre etc hot and sweaty and fear falling sick in the super cold air con places...
 

check this out , from Parliament


http://app.mot.gov.sg/News_Centre/L...aishal_Ibrahim_Replies_to_Parliamentary_.aspx

i love this part :

Parliamentary Question 9, Ms Irene Ng Phek Hoong: To ask the Minister for Transport whether the Ministry has conducted a systematic study on how other developed cities with busy roads have integrated cycling into the traffic system with a coordinated network of lanes, road signages, road markings and traffic signals and, if so, what practical lessons have been drawn that can be implemented in Singapor
 

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Just got myself back on the bike since ive stopped riding like 2years ago...

Definitely miss the old time.
Now due to injury and phobia, dont dare to do trails.
:)

I began riding while in secondary school cycling daily to and fro from home in Queenstown to Barker Road.
Later stop riding when I got my motorcycle when I was in early twenties. Now back to cycling mostly on
the road, PCN and enjoy every minute of it.

It won't be adventurous ff you just cycle around your neighbourhood because of fear of going further.
The PCN build by the govt is for all to enjoy their recreation. I have not done a single trail because once
I fall I will have enough broken bones not be alive anymore. I intend to ride if I can live up to 90. What more
when a kid of 4 can ride a 24 inch bike at the East Coast Park while a 8 year old ride a roadbike with smaller
wheel with the adult roadbike cyclists. I was even more encouraged and proud of these young people
being encouraged by mostly by their parents to take up cycling seriously.

The thing we must do as a vibrant community is to encourage, promote this very healthy sport in whatever we can
knowing well that the govt is in full support. Sometimes I would like to stop a jogger who is dragging his or her legs
while trying to do slow jogging to ride a bicycle instead. Usually these people are not regular joggers and find it so
difficult trying to keep fit through jogging.
 

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I've been riding to work on my MTB.
We have some good shared paths here in Perth.
My work encourages us to ride to work and has a bike locker and showers to help.
It's faster than catching the bus, and gives me good exercise before and after work.
Saves me money too!

Sometimes there are some crazy people on the road though, shouting and horning, but they don't know the rules.
 

Building extra width on existing road will need $ so who will pay for it? It will be good to have all cyclist to register to get a number plate and pay road tax too it's just fair nothing is free in this world :)

IRAS definition :
Motor Vehicle Taxes
These are taxes, other than import duties, that are imposed on motor vehicles. These taxes are imposed to curb car ownership and road congestion.


An overview of the Singapore tax system

So the vehicle tax, often called road tax is not a tax dedicated for road making.

Infrastructure costs are funded by taxes as a whole.

Anyway, if I pay a fee commensurate to the level of pollution and road space my bike takes up, and that guarantees a dedicated bike lane everywhere with good law enforcement to keep motorized vehicles off the lane, I'd pay. Why not?



check this out , from Parliament


http://app.mot.gov.sg/News_Centre/L...aishal_Ibrahim_Replies_to_Parliamentary_.aspx

i love this part :

Parliamentary Question 9, Ms Irene Ng Phek Hoong: To ask the Minister for Transport whether the Ministry has conducted a systematic study on how other developed cities with busy roads have integrated cycling into the traffic system with a coordinated network of lanes, road signages, road markings and traffic signals and, if so, what practical lessons have been drawn that can be implemented in Singapor

Just a painted 1.5m zone as suggest would do well enough.

Personally, I'd be happy enough if they would just get the police to monitor both motorist and cyclists for a short period.
There are some pretty nasty motorists out there which should be made an example of.
Once the news gets around, most motorists will then be more cautious and considerate to sharing the road.
Not all cyclists are angels too of course (but they are at the losing end), so same thing, words get about on enforcement, and ppl will gradually adhere to the rules.
 

IRAS definition :
Motor Vehicle Taxes

Just a painted 1.5m zone as suggest would do well enough.

Personally, I'd be happy enough if they would just get the police to monitor both motorist and cyclists for a short period.
There are some pretty nasty motorists out there which should be made an example of.
Once the news gets around, most motorists will then be more cautious and considerate to sharing the road.
Not all cyclists are angels too of course (but they are at the losing end), so same thing, words get about on enforcement, and ppl will gradually adhere to the rules.


The following can be implemented straight away.
1. Have supporting cyclists wear the 1.5m jersey when going out cycling.
2. Have stickers showing the 1.5m rule on their helmets as well.
3. Cyclists to obey traffic rules...at zebra crossing, hand signals etc etc.
4. Cyclists to register at Community Clubs for cycling safety courses.

The whole project including painting the 1.5m zone over the island won't cost a bomb and I am sure Singapore
cannot say they cannot afford it unless the cost is paid by the citizens.
 

Crack down on errant cyclists

I COMMEND The Straits Times for the report ("Japan's kamikaze cyclists"; Nov 5).
Some time ago, there was a call by cycling enthusiasts for laws to protect cyclists.
While I have nothing against cycling, having laws to protect cyclists may embolden them to flout traffic rules and endanger pedestrians.
Some cyclists speed recklessly along pedestrian walkways, sounding their bells incessantly for people to get out of their way. Others ride in the middle of a road, becoming road hazards.
While I have encountered cyclists who are courteous and respect the rights of other road users, they are few and far between.
Many still assume they have the right of way and show scant regard for traffic rules.
Some can be seen cycling in large groups on public roads, especially on weekends and public holidays. Their favourite haunts? Mandai Road, Woodlands Road, Dairy Farm Road and Bukit Batok Road, just to name a few.
Are we too lenient with errant cyclists? Or is it that education can reach out to them where the long arm of the law cannot?
The relevant authorities may wish to consider meting out stiffer punishments to cyclists who do not think twice about running afoul of the law.
At the same time, I urge the authorities to also step up enforcement efforts, such as by patrolling cycling "hot spots".
We should act before the situation worsens to become like that in Japan.
Tan Wee Long
 

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