comments abt the alpha-100

[wong1979]

please rephrase yourself. dun understand the cheem conjunctions.

Supposed I'm using a canon system with an IS lens. I don't see the shakes and hence I know exactly what I'm shooting. I will know that it's sharp when it is as I view thru from the viewfinder. (Let's say I'm using a 300mm IS lens with close-up filter)

Now on A100, the CCD is built onto the anti-shaking mechanism. Hence, what we view thru the lens is still shaky. IMO, the shakes visible during macro shooting (assuming handheld) will be distracting.

 

[Zenten]

Yes it is cheaper in to get it in Malaysia! Body only is RM$2,999.00 (Equal to approx S$1320.00)
Saving of S$180.00!!!:bigeyes: :bigeyes: Also 18 months warranty!:bigeyes:

Time to rush to JB!!!:bsmilie:

http://www.sony.com.my/sonystyle/promo/alpha.asp

But is the warranty international or not?
By the way any camera shops in JB selling the A100?

 

[pai]

Supposed I'm using a canon system with an IS lens. I don't see the shakes and hence I know exactly what I'm shooting. I will know that it's sharp when it is as I view thru from the viewfinder. (Let's say I'm using a 300mm IS lens with close-up filter)

Now on A100, the CCD is built onto the anti-shaking mechanism. Hence, what we view thru the lens is still shaky. IMO, the shakes visible during macro shooting (assuming handheld) will be distracting.

yep, you're right, this is an advantage of optical IS over in-body AS, you get to see the effects of stabilisation in the viewfinder.

for KM/Sony, they have a shake meter built into the viewfinder to help you judge if the AS is able to handle the amount of handshake. not as nice though.

as for distracting... i guess most of us live with it. it's not all that bad lah, kinda like shooting without image stabilisation?

 

[satay16]

yep, you're right, this is an advantage of optical IS over in-body AS, you get to see the effects of stabilisation in the viewfinder.

for KM/Sony, they have a shake meter built into the viewfinder to help you judge if the AS is able to handle the amount of handshake. not as nice though.

as for distracting... i guess most of us live with it. it's not all that bad lah, kinda like shooting without image stabilisation?

yar. and regarding macro, i think IS or AS itself is not built for macro shots. having AS in macro is more like a novelty than a real use.

 

[Zenten]

yar. and regarding macro, i think IS or AS itself is not built for macro shots. having AS in macro is more like a novelty than a real use.

You really think so .......... :think: ...........

 

[pai]

yar. and regarding macro, i think IS or AS itself is not built for macro shots. having AS in macro is more like a novelty than a real use.

not everyone shoots macro with tripod or using only flash power. nikon's new 105 micro is a VR lens for a reason.

 

[yipdanny]

Call Sony Singapore to find out la!

I think this are the few shops in JB, better call first before going down otherwise might be waste of time.
http://www.sony.com.my/buyguide/buyguide_sonydealer.asp?param=8

But is the warranty international or not?
By the way any camera shops in JB selling the A100?

 

[Zenten]

so many alpha threads now, dun know where to post.

anyway, i dun know if any of you noticed this, but i found that all the lenses(exclude CZ) at the sony show seemed to be made in china.

checked my 28 minolta prime, has "Japan" under it.

Packing/Label must say "Made In Japan" otherwise it is not made in Japan.

Canon 30D is "Made in Japan". :thumbsup:

 

[zcf]

Packing/Label must say "Made In Japan" otherwise it is not made in Japan.

Canon 30D is "Made in Japan". :thumbsup:

But I bet most parts are made in China :sticktong , nowaday, like most things are

 

[jsbn]

Since the ccd does the antishaking, won't looking thru the viewfinder using macro or tele still yield the shakes? Even though the end result is a sharp shot, but I think I may find it annoying just looking thru the lens.

No. The anti-shake is not reflected optically but thru an 'anti-shake' bar.

The more bars is lighted, the less likely the AS able to compensate for the shake.
Typically, Minolta users keep it at 1 bar lit, 2 bars max.

 

[eng01170]

The first thing that i noticed is the placement of the shutter release button... Just really can't accept it.

 

[grado]

I'm perfectly fine with the placement of the shuttle release. A matter of getting used to. Imagine we used to take pics with this kind of camera but I never complained about its ergonomics! Just love the camera you buy... ;p

 

[eyespeek]

Frankly speaking, there is a discernable difference between products made in Japan and elsewhere in Asia. Not just cameras, but electronics in general. But for lower end models at a (hopefully) lower-end price range, made in M'sia/Chjna, etc would be just fine.

But for higher end models at a premium price, I would like the cam to be made in Japan.

One main gripe about the D5D/A-100 is no user-programmable memory slots. If they could incorporate it into the prosumer Dimage 7Hi/A2, I don't see why they couldn't do so in all of their DSLRs.

made in japan doesn't mean the quality is good.

Got one MD from sony a few years aga. N1. only lasted for one year, not heavly used.
sad...

 

[LeaderXXX]

When the CZ lenses out?

 

[dr34mc4st3r]

When the CZ lenses out?

end of the year :devil:

 

[excelglsi]

dude, what's wrong with 'Made in Malaysia' body? is it any worse than 'Made in China/Thailand/Vietnam/Indonesia'? would you pay 1.5x the amount if it were to be 'Made in Japan'?

for example, 'Made in Malaysia' Nike polos cost around S$36 and 'Made in Turkey' Nike polos cost around S$45, which would you get if both are of the same design, material and quality?

comon, if you have confident in Sony and their QC, then wherever their products are made, you can rest assured that the quality is the same throughout. you guys must remove the misconception that the label 'Made in elsewhere' is of inferior quality. :nono:

just my two cents. cheers.

My point view is, lens made in West Germany and East Germany there is a different. Thing made from which country did play a part. Yes the QC are there but there are factor why thin made from else place rather in Japan is not as good.
Like when car from Thailand the paint work is not as good as in japan?
This I mean factor, the enviroment, the people and the standard.
Sorry this is what i felt.

Cheers

 

[satay16]

My point view is, lens made in West Germany and East Germany there is a different. Thing made from which country did play a part. Yes the QC are there but there are factor why thin made from else place rather in Japan is not as good.
Like when car from Thailand the paint work is not as good as in japan?
This I mean factor, the enviroment, the people and the standard.
Sorry this is what i felt.

Cheers

share some experiences my family had. we were trying to ship some fishing equipment to japan in an attempt to enter their market. but those products have to go through a so called "quality control" center, where they will check each and every of those products. and yes, that is each and every one of them, singapore only does selected batches. and guess what, the products came back with stickers on them, blue circular ones. why? the stcikers indicates where a fault is found. i took one fishing rod and peeled of the sticker to see the fault, and seriously, that kind of scratch can only be seen if one had a good eyesight and a nice ambient environment. crazy QC i say. crazy. but i am not sure about other products though.
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[Flare]

You can we get back at the alpha 100?
Yes, it's made in Malaysia. They probably inherited the Malaysian Miinolta factory and continue using it instead of shipping all the equipment and starting a new production line somewhere else. Makes more economic sense.

Anyway, played with it a little bit at their show rooms. Think it's focusing is noticibly better than the 7D. And compared to the 7D, I think that the Metering seems more 'accurate' in situation when there is a large difference in light level in different part of the scene... ie, bright light at one corner scenes. I dunno, I'm generally more pleased with the A100's metering, but sadly when I tried it, it's indoors and there's not much of a variation of lighting to test it.

Well, white balance seems like Sony white balance. Base only on viewing with the camera's screen, seems to lean more towards the blue side instead of Minolta's Yellow and Green tendencies. Well, again, need more test to be sure, only in 1 environment.

Well, controls... I think I'm a little too used to 7D. But since I started with Dimage 5 and A1, The controls do seems more R1/A1-ish than 7D-ish.

Weight.... Well, 7D is half metal, period... It gives me sore arms on assignments days and my right forearm is larger than my left. But well, I could probably break someone's skull with it.

Alpha-100... No vertical grip ... >_<

Flash accuracy... Well, the 7D is pretty good, but there are some problems as well. (my 5600D and 7D has not been into KM for a recalibration, dunnoe if that's the reason). Well, anyone can enlighten about the Alpha-100?

Hmmm... anything else to add?

(Old K-minoltians, Yeah, I'm still alive... ^_^)

 

[TME]

Woah Flare!!! Long time no see u in KM forum... where have u been?!

 

[Drudkh]

OMG! Flare was here!