~~Claudia of Romania~~

[Override2Zion]

Her smile in this picture make me *faint* :hung: :heart: She is a beauty. :thumbsup: Nice shot!

 

[garou12]

modern day helen of troy!!!

 

[peanutbeer]

sweeeeet! just be careful of the chopping of her fingers, breaks the flow. Little details add up. Might wanna tone back the warmth filter a teeny bit too. Overall, best shots of her i've seen of her on here! Post some of your desaturated ones le!

yeah,, i want you to focus from her elbow up..;p:sticktong:sweat:

thanks garou12

 

[peanutbeer]

Simply beautiful :thumbsup::thumbsup:

thanks newguy

Those Angmo really know how to use thier big eyes.......

but overall she has a pretty face.. thanks sglalang..

 

[peanutbeer]

Her smile in this picture make me *faint* :hung: :heart: She is a beauty. :thumbsup: Nice shot!

hold on bro..;p thanks..

 

[garou12]

yeah,, i want you to focus from her elbow up..;p:sticktong:sweat:

thanks garou12

want the viewer to focus on her face then just do headshots lor...that way will see her beautiful smile always...:sticktong i understand what you're trying to do but its hard not to notice the chopping coz it breaks the flow very abruptly...small details always matter in this kind of thing my friend...i'm not discounting the fact that you did a good job of capturing her beautiful face, but i'm sure she's more than just a pretty face as well.

 

[clubgrit]

I would agree, to a certain extent, in the sense that it's nice to have, but I don't believe it is a rule not to chop off fingers, hands, feet, ....

Small details like these will only matter to photographers who are more into the technique than the overall impact. IMHO, that is a weakness in itself, if one is easily distracted. Of course, having both is not a bad thing.

At any rate, there will be two schools of thought regarding this, one may think it is a rule, the other one doesn't. It is actually more like a preference, one doesn't want it, fine. The main point is that it is not a standard to be practised, it is up to the photographer.

For example, Guess photographers :
Guess advertisements

Or Pablo Picasso :
The Old Guitarist

Annie Leibovitz, etc ....


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[JamesW]

Very nice. Looks like Uma Thurman.

 

[garou12]

I would agree, to a certain extent, in the sense that it's nice to have, but I don't believe it is a rule not to chop off fingers, hands, feet, ....

Small details like these will only matter to photographers who are more into the technique than the overall impact. IMHO, that is a weakness in itself, if one is easily distracted. Of course, having both is not a bad thing.

At any rate, there will be two schools of thought regarding this, one may think it is a rule, the other one doesn't. It is actually more like a preference, one doesn't want it, fine. The main point is that it is not a standard to be practised, it is up to the photographer.

For example, Guess photographers :
Guess advertisements

Or Pablo Picasso :
The Old Guitarist

Annie Leibovitz, etc ....


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there's a time to do it and a time to not do it. You just dismantled your own arguement because people like Picasso and Leibovitz do it asethetically well and do it carefully. Besides everything about Picasso was about technique...cubism etc you can't compare a him to TS its not fair to TS. Picasso was a master of the basics and thus began to develop his own techniques to break out of the mold. Leibovitz is about capturing the essence of the person in portrait form. You look at her work and you can write a long story about the subject and connect with them on so many levels. The GUESS ads can get away with it because the focus and impact is on the CLOTHES or the BRAND, not the model. Basic rule of Advertising and Commerical photography: Your PRODUCT is the star and should never be overshadowed by the talent in the ad...let me give you an example: Say we have a mac Donald's ads and we have let's say Jackie Chan just walking out of a what looks like a Mac Donald's but you can't quite tell for sure, and the shots is constructed in such a way that the focus is all on JAckie Chan and you don't see a Big Mac or even a MacD's logo. Willing latr think that its a JAckie Chan clip or will you think that its a Mac D's ad how me a product ad that just shows me the talent without any look of the product and i'll concede your point. otherwise its just meaningless entertainment, not a selling message. whereas in this case the focus is on the girl. and as TS put it he wants us to focus on her elbow up...so its pretty much obvious the fingers were the result of accident and not paying attention to detail. As i said I AM NOT discounting the fact that he succeed in making us appreciate her beautiful face, he has done a great job in that. This is something not just him but alot of photographers should learn and realize if they want to move beyond just taking conventional snapshots. You wanna talk about technique, well for this art form technique is everything isn't? otherwise how do we differentiate our photos from just plain old snapshots?

 

[peanutbeer]

want the viewer to focus on her face then just do headshots lor...that way will see her beautiful smile always...:sticktong i understand what you're trying to do but its hard not to notice the chopping coz it breaks the flow very abruptly...small details always matter in this kind of thing my friend...i'm not discounting the fact that you did a good job of capturing her beautiful face, but i'm sure she's more than just a pretty face as well.

thanks garou12 if i can PP the fingers then ill post one with fingers.. ;p this is out of camera cropping but i guess Clubgrit got some explanation we regards to this..

cropping is by preference... do you always complain/critique/comment every time youre seeing amputated advertisement ads?

;p

 

[peanutbeer]

there's a time to do it and a time to not do it. You just dismantled your own arguement because people like Picasso and Leibovitz do it asethetically well and is done carefully. The GUESS ads can get away with it because the focus and impact is on the CLOTHES not the model. Basic rule of Advertising and Commerical photography: Your PRODUCT is the star and should never be overshadowed by the talent in the ad...show me a product ad that just shows me the talent without any look of the product and i'll concede your point. otherwise its just meaningless entertainment, not a selling message. whereas in this case the focus is on the girl. and as TS put it he wants us to focus on her elbow up...so its pretty much obvious the fingers were the result of accident and not paying attention to detail. As i said I AM NOT discounting the fact that he succeed in making us appreciate her beautiful face, he has done a great job in that. You wanna talk about technique, well for this art form technique is everything isn't? otherwise how do we differentiate our photos from just plain old snapshots?

but i saw guess ads got no clothes and amputated model wearing jeans.. i think it zero in on the Guess (?) label..:dunno:

i dont agree about oovershadowing the product with the talent in the ads.... this is very...:sticktong argument... why then will guess feature Pamela Lee, Paris Hilton etc...??

 

[garou12]

thanks garou12 if i can PP the fingers then ill post one with fingers.. ;p this is out of camera cropping but i guess Clubgrit got some explanation we regards to this..

cropping is by preference... do you always complain/critique/comment every time youre seeing amputated advertisement ads?

;p

if someone who tells me they think its alright yes...

 

[garou12]

wearing jeans.. i think it zero in on the Guess (?) label..:dunno:

you just proved my point right there.

 

[garou12]

but i saw guess ads got no clothes and amputated model wearing jeans.. i think it zero in on the Guess (?) label..:dunno:

i dont agree about oovershadowing the product with the talent in the ads.... this is very...:sticktong argument... why then will guess feature Pamela Lee, Paris Hilton etc...??

The celebs are there to make you look at the ad, GRAB YPUR ATTENTION and then have your eye drawn to the product IN the ad...if you look very closely at these kind of ads you will notice that the ads are strategically placed as so that the viewer's eye is eventually drawn to the product.

 

[peanutbeer]

Very nice. Looks like Uma Thurman.

thanks James yah she looks like Uma... ive met you at Hannah's studio shoot right??.. hows life treating there? still got chance to shoot like this?

 

[stougard]

I would agree, to a certain extent, in the sense that it's nice to have, but I don't believe it is a rule not to chop off fingers, hands, feet, ....

Small details like these will only matter to photographers who are more into the technique than the overall impact. IMHO, that is a weakness in itself, if one is easily distracted. Of course, having both is not a bad thing.

At any rate, there will be two schools of thought regarding this, one may think it is a rule, the other one doesn't. It is actually more like a preference, one doesn't want it, fine. The main point is that it is not a standard to be practised, it is up to the photographer.

For example, Guess photographers :
Guess advertisements

Or Pablo Picasso :
The Old Guitarist

Annie Leibovitz, etc ....


.

:bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:

Thanks to make me laugh so much, you're very funny man. You're right, you should cut the hear, the eyes and the nose of the model, after all, why not ... you're PICASSO man, you've all the rights.

Please, go and see the work of Picasso before you talk about something you don't know, learn the rules, try to be a little bit "humble" and after a few years, you may understand why some artists break theses rules and how they do it. At least, you'll be able to make the difference between a bad cropped snapshot posted on Clubsnap and a piece of art in a Museum. then you may stop compare both and be publicly so ridiculous.

anyway, Model is very beautiful, congrats for finding her, hope she's not to upset for what you made with her.

 

[peanutbeer]

:bsmilie:

Thanks to make me laugh so much, you're very funny man. You're right, you should cut the hear, the eyes and the nose of the model, after all, why not ... you're PICASSO man, you've all the rights.

Please, go and see the work of Picasso before you talk about something you don't know, learn the rules, try to be a little bit "humble" and after a few years, you may understand why some artists break theses rules and how they do it. At least, you'll be able to make the difference between a bad cropped snapshot posted on Clubsnap and a piece of art in a Museum. then you may stop compare both and be publicly so ridiculous.

anyway, Model is very beautiful, congrats for finding her, hope she's not to upset for what you made with her.

She just emailed me and she says she like it a lot.. i told you its just personal preference... if you dont like it dont reitereate your style...but thanks i learn a lot from you and i guess thats the essence of Critique..
:sticktong:bigeyes::bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[garou12]

She just emailed me and she says she like it a lot.. i told you its just personal preference...

wa cool you got her email address. but remember...non of us ever said it was a bad photo

 

[Ramius75]

love the 1st 2 portrait shots. May i know whats the len used and setting ??? Any special lighting ?? thanks

 

[glensky]

:cheergal:

I would agree, to a certain extent, in the sense that it's nice to have, but I don't believe it is a rule not to chop off fingers, hands, feet, ....

Small details like these will only matter to photographers who are more into the technique than the overall impact. IMHO, that is a weakness in itself, if one is easily distracted. Of course, having both is not a bad thing.

At any rate, there will be two schools of thought regarding this, one may think it is a rule, the other one doesn't. It is actually more like a preference, one doesn't want it, fine. The main point is that it is not a standard to be practised, it is up to the photographer.

For example, Guess photographers :
Guess advertisements

Or Pablo Picasso :
The Old Guitarist

Annie Leibovitz, etc ....


.

:thumbsup::thumbsup: