Canon EOS1v & D60

[ckiang]

Originally posted by Red Dawn


haha....it's a well kept secret...until now ;p

So our friend is now convinced Velvia, Provia, Astia, Sensia et all is better than D30 output. Velvia especially. ;p

Regards
CK

 

[ckiang]

Originally posted by StreetShooter
Standby body for those things you can't do with a D30, eh?

If I ever get another film body it will be one of those rangefinder thingies. But then I doubt I ever will. Let's see. Load film. Run out of film after just 36 shots. Reload film. Drive down to shop. Drop off film. Drive home. Wait. Wait some more. Drive down to shop. Pick up prints. Scan negatives. Adjust in photoshop. Post.

All this as opposed to: Get home. Stick CF into firewire reader. Review pics. Adjust levels. USM. Post.

Streetshooter, don't speak too soon. Red Dawn said he is "not into photography" a year ago, "will never buy a film body" in all his photography life, but see what happened?

Actually, let's compare the digital vs film workflow. I am assuming here if you do film, you don't need it inside the PC. If you do, then digital is the way, of coz. And I shall not raise the oft-debated digital vs film issues coz it has been so frequently discussed to no end.

Digital
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1. Shoot
2. Download
3. Adjust levels, contrast, etc., USM
4. Repeat for every single picture.

Film
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1. Shoot
2. Drop off film at lab
3. Pick up film/prints

If you shoot negs, you are essentially "out sourcing" the adjustments, etc to the lab. The do it for you, even if you have 100 rolls.


Regards
CK

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by ckiang


So our friend is now convinced Velvia, Provia, Astia, Sensia et all is better than D30 output. Velvia especially. ;p

of course not! ;p not when u prefer them in digitised form, like i do. To be of any use, commercially or otherwise, the picture has to be digitised. And no lab can scan slides good enough

Physical slides can get dust and have a myraid of other disasters happen to it, while you can't lose digital files that easily to natural elements, esp if u keep multiple backup copies

 

[ckiang]

Originally posted by Red Dawn


of course not! ;p not when u prefer them in digitised form, like i do. To be of any use, commercially or otherwise, the picture has to be digitised. And no lab can scan slides good enough

Physical slides can get dust and have a myraid of other disasters happen to it, while you can't lose digital files that easily to natural elements, esp if u keep multiple backup copies

There is one big advantage to scanning slides or other film. With slides, you can "decide later" what resolution you want it to be. With digital, it's pretty much fixed. Which is why people shoot at the highest resolution. Dust and all is not an issue if you keep them properly.

And unfortunately, Miranda's Digital Velvia is still no match for The Real Thing(tm).

Come on, admit it. You already bought a film body and shot film. :devil:

Regards
CK

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by StreetShooter
Standby body for those things you can't do with a D30, eh?

yup.......to reply to the original poster's question as to why i picked the 1v, as opposed to say, a D60.....(i dropped that D60 idea quite long ago actually)...

(in order of priority, sort of)

1. Need a backup system for the D30. i intend to carry on with the assignments / free lance stuff i've been doing. Since i use primes, i have natural backup for lenses, but if the D30 breaks for some reason, it's going to be very hard to explain to pple......

not that i'm going to turn pro anytime soon, but u start getting paranoid after a while when u miss certain shots due to slow focusing, full buffer, slow AI Servo performance etc etc. Yes, things like that happen, sometimes. 1D is out of reach / out of the question. D60 is not much of an improvement. The 1v fills the gap (though it's a film body) when the situation calls for a robust, fast and responsive body.

Also, i have turned down some which film was insisted upon. Now i will have that option.

2. Instant wide angle solution. The 20 becomes a true 20 for those occasions when i need it, and the 35mm f2 has become my standard lens for the film body - a very good walkaround general / street shooting lens.....

3. High ISO Black and white shooting (say..ISO 3200? ). street, documentary shooting. i could convert D30 pics to realistic black and white (and i will continue to do so) but would also like to experience black and white photography as well.

The VERY first roll of film i loaded happens to be black and white no i wasn't conscious of that fact until this week, when i think about it. The very first lens i put on to shoot happens to be the 20mm. Hmm......see points 2 and 3 above........

4. The 1v should depreciate at a slower rate than the digital bodies today.

5. Those slides do look pretty good ;p

If I ever get another film body it will be one of those rangefinder thingies.

the number 1 reason why i didn't pick a rangefinder after all - i can't use existing lenses and flash (need to invest in compatible lens set; 420EX is a fully ETTL flash only....)

number 2 reason being it's not a complete backup system to the D30. It would be nice to add a rangerfinder system in future though but it's just not a suitable backup for the D30, in terms of equipment, usage etc etc.....

But then I doubt I ever will. Let's see. Load film. Run out of film after just 36 shots. Reload film. Drive down to shop. Drop off film. Drive home. Wait. Wait some more. Drive down to shop. Pick up prints. Scan negatives. Adjust in photoshop. Post.

All this as opposed to: Get home. Stick CF into firewire reader. Review pics. Adjust levels. USM. Post.

haha......i know wat u mean......
i'm experiencing tat right now!