Canon 450D Just body or with basic lens kit

[Benosaurous]

the kit lens is one of the best lens canon have ever built for a rebel series. If you find it useless, i am sorry, i also have to disagree with you and seriously doubt what are you shooting.

Its quality loses the L and low light efficiency loses the f2.8, but for that price, it is definitely a good start lens for you to learn photography and use it to judge what lens you will go into in terms of focal length and dop. After upgrading, you still can keep it as a backup lens, who knows when you will require its help again.

edited for TS. The tammy 17-50 is also an excellent lens for its price, and not to mention the f2.8 helps, but do take note the disadvantages of 3rd party lenses, like it might not work with future camera, and service support.

however 11-16 is not a lens for everyone, it is uwa, ultra wide angle, not really that easy to use, and your photos will be really limited with its focal length.

i strongly suggest you to take the kit set, and see if you really require a wider lens for your landscape. Then save and buy it as additional lens. For me i just take panorama stitched photos with my 17-40 for landscape.

 

[marvster]

I'm using my kit lens and all the advise I've been getting is to use it and know it's limits and your own limits.

and I believe why the tammy might not work in future bodies is because the reverse engineer rather than license the technology.

 

[happyflic]

Hi guys,

I am planning to buy 450D later in the year but one of my friend actually suggested that I should just get the body without the basic lens kit. That I should save the money and buy a better lens Tokina 11-16 2.8 since most probably I will find the basic lens neither wide nor zoom.
Oh yeah I am a point and shoot A series cam owner and wanted to try my hands on DSLR in case wondering.
Let to know what is everyone's take whether I should get the body only or with the basic lens kit? Thanks

Hi,

I only getting my 450D body without the kit lens..
There lots of things you need to consider before you decide whether or not to stick to kit lens first.

Because we all not sure what you actually want..what is your photo shooting style.

For me, I'm looking for better lens for my landscape photogra when I go for my backpack. So I rather choose 450D with Canon10-22, and with a low range potrait lens 50f1.8.

Another thing you also have to consider is that... $$..
if you say you not sure about what you want .... maybe is good for you to try kit lens first and slowly find out what you want for more..

Before I decided on 450D, i've actually rent the camera and some lenses for trying and figure out what I actually want, than only start save $$ to meet my target.....:bsmilie:

Wish that I've given you some clue on whether 450D or 450D + kit lens....

All the best.... :thumbsup:

 

[Yuxuan]

Hi,

Because we all not sure what you actually want..what is your photo shooting style.

Before I decided on 450D, i've actually rent the camera and some lenses for trying and figure out what I actually want, than only start save $$ to meet my target.....:bsmilie:

Wish that I've given you some clue on whether 450D or 450D + kit lens....

All the best.... :thumbsup:

Think would like to focus on landscape for a start, not really into human potraits....shooting style, not so sure...my pictures can be found http://uwphoenix.multiply.com/ ...

Rent? May I ask who or where you rent it from? Thanks!

 

[estel]

I have the 450D and bought with Kit lens. The kit lens is useless. If you want, I can sell it to you cheap. Let me know.

never owned a 18-55 IS, checked some pics from a "useless" lens.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/...F-S-18-55mm-f/3.5-5.6-IS-Lens-Sample-Pictures

doesn't look "useless" to me.

TS, if you want, get a better lens, but an ultra wide might not be a very good choice as many have said.

 

[calebk]

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359995

I rent from Desmond (aka paradigm). I've found his prices to be very competitive with very friendly service to boot.

 

[unseenshadows]

IMO if you have no idea what focal lengths will be most common to your style of photography, you should get the kit-lens, exhaust it by finding out how it limits your photography, before buying another lens.

 

[zaliteo]

got my 450d body from comex yesterday and today got my tamron 17-50 from cathay..
wasted 4hrs to look for tamron.. alot of shop close.. TK, John, TCW.. all the rest like alan phot all run out of tamron for canon mount.. sigh.. lucky cathay left the last piece.!

 

[fimo]

IMO if you have no idea what focal lengths will be most common to your style of photography, you should get the kit-lens, exhaust it by finding out how it limits your photography, before buying another lens.

This was my approach as well. Although I'd used an SLR a long time ago, I've been using P&S exclusively for the past 7-8 years. When I decided on the 450D I first thought of getting the body and a nice lens. But then I reassessed and decided I really needed to get 'down & dirty' with a DSLR before making the leap to more expensive lenses. The kit lens is cheap and good and gave me a good start.

After mucking about for 3-4mths, I went on to buy the 10-22mm UWA, and the 50mm f/1.4. I bought both used - the former from USM via classifieds, the latter off a photographer friend. And I'm still learning how to get the most of these two.

Anyway, you might want to buy the kit lens off the classifieds here - many of them going for cheap.

 

[edesign]

I have the 450D and bought with Kit lens. The kit lens is useless. If you want, I can sell it to you cheap. Let me know.

useless? i think you're useless in not able to fully utilise it in any aspect.
lens are never useless, its a matter of how good you are.

 

[kokemon]

18-55 IS, I find this sharper than Tamron 17-50, but of course Tamron is better with Low light. I decided to keep the Kit lense and instead buy a flash to help my kit lens in the Low light condition. Boke??? it is better to just have the 50mm 1.8, cheaper

 

[charlesleong]

got my 450d body from comex yesterday and today got my tamron 17-50 from cathay..
wasted 4hrs to look for tamron.. alot of shop close.. TK, John, TCW.. all the rest like alan phot all run out of tamron for canon mount.. sigh.. lucky cathay left the last piece.!

it's usually better to phone ahead to check stock - you can try asking them to keep a piece for you.

 

[Yuxuan]

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359995

I rent from Desmond (aka paradigm). I've found his prices to be very competitive with very friendly service to boot.

Cool but his collection is at Jurong East which is a bit too far for me...any other recommendations or specifically which classifieds should I be looking at for other offering rental as well??? Sorry pretty new to this and never knew rental are available!!

 

[happyflic]

Cool but his collection is at Jurong East which is a bit too far for me...any other recommendations or specifically which classifieds should I be looking at for other offering rental as well??? Sorry pretty new to this and never knew rental are available!!

Hi Yuxuan,

You also can take a look into Marketplace - Commercial Services Offered .. few ppls offering rental services.

I've go through your blog.. saw your photos(Siem Reap trip).. quite nice with your capture and composition. Think you can try find out the wide lens... and some potrait lens... If money not your concern.

But I'm not saying kitlens not good.. As I never try before the kitlens..so not much comment can give.

 

[Yuxuan]

Hi Yuxuan,

You also can take a look into Marketplace - Commercial Services Offered .. few ppls offering rental services.

I've go through your blog.. saw your photos(Siem Reap trip).. quite nice with your capture and composition. Think you can try find out the wide lens... and some potrait lens... If money not your concern.

But I'm not saying kitlens not good.. As I never try before the kitlens..so not much comment can give.

Thanks for your encouraging comments. Will look under marketplace...sigh photography is sure an expensive hobby!!

 

[gman23xx]

To be honest, to me your friend is blabbering nonsense. The kit lens is the most commonly used zoom range, with a moderate wide angle to moderate telephoto in the same lens. It is a good lens, a very decent performer for its price.

The 11-16 is truly NOT your common zoom range. That's an ultrawide lens. Your friend's advice is seriously flawed.

True indeed. I just got my canon 450D 2 days ago. Kit lens is the way to go. I just don't know why many say kit lens is lousy. It's made in japan...so why worry...it's a good starter to practice on.


gman

 

[AndyC]

True indeed. I just got my canon 450D 2 days ago. Kit lens is the way to go. I just don't know why many say kit lens is lousy. It's made in japan...so why worry...it's a good starter to practice on.


gman

at least the 450D kit lens is made in japan. my 400D's kit lens is made in taiwan...n no IS...

 

[charlesleong]

at least the 450D kit lens is made in japan. my 400D's kit lens is made in taiwan...n no IS...

as long as you know the limitations of your lens and how to work around it, it does not matter how good or bad it is. your creativity is the limit

 

[AndyC]

as long as you know the limitations of your lens and how to work around it, it does not matter how good or bad it is. your creativity is the limit

not complaining abt it...anyway i don't really use it anymore...just pointing out the diff between the kit lens for 400D and 450D...

anyway now 400D is so cheap...lucky i used it since last jan...if not really :bheart: