Canon 1Ds MK II
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For some people it could be......
Annual income: $600,000
Cost of house/car loans: $150,000
Income Tax: $150,000
Cost of living, food, utilities, country club sub: $100,000
Savings: $100,000
Disposable Income: $100,000
Relative price of 1DsMK2: peanuts......
BUY! BUY! BUY!.........
Annual income: $600,000
Cost of house/car loans: $150,000
Income Tax: $150,000
Cost of living, food, utilities, country club sub: $100,000
Savings: $100,000
Disposable Income: $100,000
Relative price of 1DsMK2: peanuts......
BUY! BUY! BUY!.........
benny
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Come on guys...There are regular folks out there (very much like you and I) who may just save up and buy it because it's our dream gear. I know some folks have watches worth more than S$10,000, and they don't stay in big houses and or even drive a car. And then there's HDB Hi Fi junkies... the list goes on.
For whatever it's worth, some will find it to be of acceptable value and will aim towards owning it.
Cheers,
For whatever it's worth, some will find it to be of acceptable value and will aim towards owning it.
Cheers,
weekh said:
Aside from the fact that I'm afraid the assumed figure is likely to be off the mark. Most digital SLRs from the short history of the industry tend to be worth no more than 50% second hand within about 18 months, so to expect approximately 66% of value after 3 years is a bit optimistic methinks.
Put another way, would you pay S$8k for a 3 year old 1Ds? (You shouldn't really!)
But certainly, if you shoot plenty and use your camera(s), purchases are entirely justifiable.
Like wht benny mentioned, it maybe his dream gear afterall....
I guess he must have this great passion on photography...if not he wouldnt juz spend like tat....
well, some bros here might think it's expensive to fork out so much to own it...rather than saving!!! or something else
errr...then which HP u're carrying?? why buy handphone...waste of $$ whereby u can stick to those phonecard to make call in public boot!!!......
Juz my 2 cents opinon...
ITs THE Passion you put in tat counts...!!
I guess he must have this great passion on photography...if not he wouldnt juz spend like tat....
well, some bros here might think it's expensive to fork out so much to own it...rather than saving!!! or something else
errr...then which HP u're carrying?? why buy handphone...waste of $$ whereby u can stick to those phonecard to make call in public boot!!!......
Juz my 2 cents opinon...
ITs THE Passion you put in tat counts...!!
I'm currently in japan on a vacation and went to yodabashi (a kind of electronics superstore). The 1Ds II is 892,500 yen and the 1D II is 574,800 yen (1yen = 0.016S$) . The nice thing about the stores in Japan is that they put some test cameras out there for customers to try, even with no salesperson around to watch you. I put my CF into the 1DII and 1DsII and got to try shooting some pictures, to take back to my computer to have a look at the quality. Yeah, from what I see, the quality is much nicer than my 10D, especially at the higher ISO of 800 which the camera happened to be set at. And the rate of firing of the 1DII is very impressive. I guess those of you who have used the 1D know the feeling though.
Kho King
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Jed said:
have to agree with Jed on this. DSLR depreciate price too much and too fast nowadays. in Year 2007, full frame DSLR should be available in Nikon, Minolta and even Olympus or Pentax already...and technology has probably advance to more than 30MP with some ultra memory and battery life. Price of new DSLR might have dropped to as low as below S$500 to as expensive as S$7k (top of the line), thus...1Ds MK2 will not worth much that time...maybe not in year 2007 but 2010...
I believe DSLR price will eventually be the same as where the film SLR price was before the start of DSLR era...
just a wild guess... ;p
Wow - this is a world first... a camera thats competitive to buy in AUS than in Singapore? Usually your prices eat ours alive.
I laid my order of $12,499 AUD today..
Amatuers certainly don't need this camera, at least not over a 1DMKII. What kind of amatuer needs 16.7 megapixels? Unless they make prints 20"x30"+ all the time or something.. either that or they're filthy rich.
I had a really hard time justifying to get the 1Ds MKII over the 1D MKII. But I could really use the wider angle for my photography, plus my clients like to crop my photos, then slap them as a double truck spread. That kills the 6.3 megapixel images, and 8.3 isn't much help. The 11.1 1Ds is too slow, and it's 3 years old.
But the major reason is because the 1Ds MKII is going to last me at least a further 2 or 3 years more than getting a 1DMKII due to megapixel/Full Frame factor. And to me that alone is worth spending the extra money NOW, and getting the best of the crop now.
Put it this way, if I had bought the 1Ds 2 years ago, I would certainly not consider upgrading at this point in time, i'd be happy at what i've got and where I am with it now - and keep it for perhaps another 2 years. 4 years for a camera in a professional environment is pretty good.
This is just my stupid guess, but i'm hoping the 1Ds MKII might hold it's value better, I can't see increased megapixels being a significant factor in the future... people will start wanting things like full frame, or improved dynamic range, faster shooting and maybe less noise in small sensors.
If they brought out a 50 megapixel full frame camera in 2 years time... I won't miss my 16.7mp at all.
Also, I honestly don't beleive that Canon will be making full frame sensors indefinately in the next few years to come. They've started the EF-S series, and it's obviously a signal towards the future. I don't think they intend on making EF-S obsolete in the next 4+ years. So Full Frame will probably remain amongst the elite.
And then you've got what is kept only with the pro bodies. Big and black and strong, the quality components which are used to build these cameras don't always depreciate in value so quickly... only the digital components. Such as the CPU, processor, RAM, sensor.. and of course the LCD. I'm going to be ultra jealous in 2 years when 4 inch crystal clear LCD's are available on the EOS 1DMK4.
Only thign that would really piss me off is if there was a 20D style camera, that was basically a higher megapixel version of the 1DMKII. Coming out anytime soon for a very competitive price.
That would probably happen! But until then it's not like I can buy a 20D (1.6x :nono: ) or a 1DMKII (8.3mp :nono: )
:dunno:
I laid my order of $12,499 AUD today..
Amatuers certainly don't need this camera, at least not over a 1DMKII. What kind of amatuer needs 16.7 megapixels? Unless they make prints 20"x30"+ all the time or something.. either that or they're filthy rich.
I had a really hard time justifying to get the 1Ds MKII over the 1D MKII. But I could really use the wider angle for my photography, plus my clients like to crop my photos, then slap them as a double truck spread. That kills the 6.3 megapixel images, and 8.3 isn't much help. The 11.1 1Ds is too slow, and it's 3 years old.
But the major reason is because the 1Ds MKII is going to last me at least a further 2 or 3 years more than getting a 1DMKII due to megapixel/Full Frame factor. And to me that alone is worth spending the extra money NOW, and getting the best of the crop now.
Put it this way, if I had bought the 1Ds 2 years ago, I would certainly not consider upgrading at this point in time, i'd be happy at what i've got and where I am with it now - and keep it for perhaps another 2 years. 4 years for a camera in a professional environment is pretty good.
This is just my stupid guess, but i'm hoping the 1Ds MKII might hold it's value better, I can't see increased megapixels being a significant factor in the future... people will start wanting things like full frame, or improved dynamic range, faster shooting and maybe less noise in small sensors.
If they brought out a 50 megapixel full frame camera in 2 years time... I won't miss my 16.7mp at all.
Also, I honestly don't beleive that Canon will be making full frame sensors indefinately in the next few years to come. They've started the EF-S series, and it's obviously a signal towards the future. I don't think they intend on making EF-S obsolete in the next 4+ years. So Full Frame will probably remain amongst the elite.
And then you've got what is kept only with the pro bodies. Big and black and strong, the quality components which are used to build these cameras don't always depreciate in value so quickly... only the digital components. Such as the CPU, processor, RAM, sensor.. and of course the LCD. I'm going to be ultra jealous in 2 years when 4 inch crystal clear LCD's are available on the EOS 1DMK4.
Only thign that would really piss me off is if there was a 20D style camera, that was basically a higher megapixel version of the 1DMKII. Coming out anytime soon for a very competitive price.
That would probably happen! But until then it's not like I can buy a 20D (1.6x :nono: ) or a 1DMKII (8.3mp :nono: )
:dunno:
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