Canon 10D or Nikon D100 ?

[berryhappy]

I think if you really want to attempt to do a quantitative analysis, you can list each feature and rate the cameras based on the feature. Derive a balanced scorecard from the weightage you assign to each feature. then tata! you have your answer.

Otherwise, look at the kind of pictures you want to take, the typical situation you will be in...and decide which camera is more suitable. Other personal preferences can come in...like you like things that start with N better because it also ryhmes with Nike, Nokia, Netscape etc.

After you have made your decision, don't look back. It's up to you to make it the right one.

Eventually, it still falls back on "the quality of the pictures depends on the woman behind the camera, NOT the camera in front of the woman."

 

[taker]

Originally posted by myloplex
10D has 7 pt AF while 100D has 5pts .. hmm comments ?

As far as D100 is concerned, AF has always been fast and accurate. 10D had back/forward focusing issues earlier. Not sure if it has been resolved totally. Just have to be careful when making purchasing, esp with earlier batches.

 

[jtnet]

Originally posted by myloplex
10D has 7 pt AF while 100D has 5pts .. hmm comments ?

don find it that useful . no diiff for me at least!

 

[Zerstorer]

Originally posted by myloplex
10D has 7 pt AF while 100D has 5pts .. hmm comments ?

Don't just count the number of points, check out the light sensitivity of the AF points and look at the coverage pattern if you really want to pick at details.

On the whole, try to evaluate and prioritize the features based upon your needs and keeping in mind the cost and features of the lens system you are buying into. That is ultimately more important than the differences in the 2 existing bodies.

 

[Pepper]

Many reliable sources indicate DSLR will be way way cheaper next year. If you can wait a little, you will save quite a bit.

 

[Pepper]

early next year to be exact...

 

[myloplex]

Originally posted by Pepper
early next year to be exact...

how come lower ? but even if new models come out it'll be more expensive since new yar ?
Hmm you know canon DiGic processor .. isit because of that ?

 

[ST1100]

Originally posted by myloplex
Me thinking of getting a DSLR

Canon 10D or Nikon D100
Which is a better buy ?

Hi myloplex.

Can i assume from your question that you don't have a significant (or any) investment in either Canon or Nikon glass? (Bcoz if you do, i doubt you will ask this question.)

If you are coming from a digicam background, then there is a lot to pick up when you plunge into SLRs. Maybe could pick up a second hand film SLR for one or two hundred dollars and try out first? You may find the weight objectionable (compared to a digicam.)

You will be buying into a system, not just a camera body. It is almost impossible to say which one (the system, not the body) is objectively superior. In a few years time, these two will be obsolete bodies. If you pick either one today, the other camp might come up with something vastly superior. Then how?

A realistic budget for new dSLR+some lenses+accessories is around $5k.

Sorry if i've made any wrong assumptions above.

 

[Pepper]

Originally posted by myloplex
how come lower ? but even if new models come out it'll be more expensive since new yar ?
Hmm you know canon DiGic processor .. isit because of that ?

From reliable/leaked sources, Canon is developing a cheaper, little frilled 300D DSLR than 10D to be released early next year.

Nikon will also release a new consumer DSLR early next yr (Spring 2004). No clue if this product is to replace D100 or to compete with Canon's 300D.

Why cheaper? A few reasons, mainly production of these DSLR are in China now (used to be Japan). The other obvious reason is competition, & cheaper sensors (which made up the bulk of the cost of a DSLR).

For now, I feel a good budget DSLR should be in the range of S$1500 to S$2000. But who knows, in a couple of years, DSLR might cost just S$800.

 

[shutterbug]

Originally posted by Timber

SB80DX is lighter and smaller than 550EX, and uses only 1 button for both vertical and horizontal tilt adjustment (550EX uses 2). this further divides the 2 in terms of handyness. 500EX on the other hand, is already wireless ready, with transmitter on board.

SB80-DX is also wireless ready. Built-in wireless flash is capable of wireless TTL to 23 feet, Auto or Manual to 131 feet.

 

[Timber]

Originally posted by shutterbug
SB80-DX is also wireless ready. Built-in wireless flash is capable of wireless TTL to 23 feet, Auto or Manual to 131 feet.

actually, all nikon flashes are wireless slave ready. but they all require additional SU-4 wireless remote TTL flash controller to fire them.

In the case of 550EX, it has an in-built wireless remote flash emitter to control up to 3 groups of (multiple) flashes and function as a master flash.

 

[Kho King]

IMHO, u should take into consideration what lenses u plan to get for your camera, and see if Nikon or Canon has the lenses u want.

 

[Watcher]

Originally posted by myloplex
JPEG files not tagged with correct colour profile when color mode II selected

False. I do it all the time. No prob

Canon cons:
Does not tag any file with the colorspace selected at all.

 

[Watcher]

Originally posted by agape01
*agape01 puts on full flame suit*

However, I think (but got no basis to prove my point and this is just for the fun of things) that Canon's IS or Image Stabilizer is way far better than Nikon's VR (Vibration Technology)...

Hope our Nikon frens do not get too bad over that statement...

;p

Nope. The answer is "it depends". Read it here

Most here are likely to get a shorter lens than a longer one...

 

[tsystem]

Originally posted by Timber
actually, all nikon flashes are wireless slave ready. but they all require additional SU-4 wireless remote TTL flash controller to fire them.

In the case of 550EX, it has an in-built wireless remote flash emitter to control up to 3 groups of (multiple) flashes and function as a master flash.

Just want to point out to you that not all nikon flashes require "additional SU-4 wireless remote TTL flash controller to fire them".

The SB-80DX is slave capable and fires wirelessly

 

[Timber]

Originally posted by tsystem
Just want to point out to you that not all nikon flashes require "additional SU-4 wireless remote TTL flash controller to fire them".

The SB-80DX is slave capable and fires wirelessly

my apologies for the confusing comments on flashs. was trying to say that 550EX can function as wireless master AND slave, while SB80DX can function as wireless slave only. this is not an impt additional feature as one can easily add a SU-4 to SB80DX. anyway, think i shouldn't be commenting about flashes. this thread is about D100 and 10D.

thanks to shutterbug and tsystem for pointing out my mistakes ;p

 

[Knighthunter]

Originally posted by Timber
my apologies for the confusing comments on flashs. was trying to say that 550EX can function as wireless master AND slave, while SB80DX can function as wireless slave only. this is not an impt additional feature as one can easily add a SU-4 to SB80DX. anyway, think i shouldn't be commenting about flashes. this thread is about D100 and 10D.

thanks to shutterbug and tsystem for pointing out my mistakes ;p

Pardon me to correct your statement up there.
SB-80DX and SB-50DX have ability either become slave or master unit. Nikon wireless flass is little outdated therefore is imposible to do Matrix D-TTL with pre-flash for wireless function. This is a big pain for Nikon DSLR users since on Nikon DSLR it's impossible to disable pre-flash.

Canon has different approach on wireless flash it uses series of pre-flashes to trigger the slave. The diagram of pre-flash timing for Canon wireless flash system can be found on the Canon Flash Work Booklet (i hope I still remember the title correctly), I gave my copy from Canon Australia to someone long time ago.

 

[Knighthunter]

Originally posted by Timber
my apologies for the confusing comments on flashs. was trying to say that 550EX can function as wireless master AND slave, while SB80DX can function as wireless slave only. this is not an impt additional feature as one can easily add a SU-4 to SB80DX. anyway, think i shouldn't be commenting about flashes. this thread is about D100 and 10D.

thanks to shutterbug and tsystem for pointing out my mistakes ;p

Pardon me to correct your statement up there.
SB-80DX and SB-50DX have ability either become slave or master unit. Nikon wireless flash is little outdated therefore is imposible to do Matrix D-TTL with pre-flash for wireless function. This is a big pain for Nikon DSLR users since on Nikon DSLR it's impossible to disable pre-flash.

Canon has different approach on wireless flash it uses series of pre-flashes to trigger the slave. The diagram of pre-flash timing for Canon wireless flash system can be found on the Canon Flash Work Booklet (i hope I still remember the title correctly), I gave my copy from Canon Australia to someone long time ago.

 

[oeyvind]

Originally posted by Pepper
From reliable/leaked sources, Canon is developing a cheaper, little frilled 300D DSLR than 10D to be released early next year.

Not next month meh? Then again maybe my src is wrong... :wink:

 

[myloplex]

I called the Nikon Tech Dept.

Sigh ! The under exposure problem is not even sloved with the new firmware. The tech guy said it could be sloved with a new firmware. How come nikon has not done anything about this for so long?

Current user fine this a pain ?!