can this be for real?

[klsss]

hi guys , i recevied this mail this morning , wat do u guys think? dont try it , i dont know this guy . jus for your ref only .


To member: klsss66
>From member: keel33

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Dear Sir or Madam,

Please excuse me for this unexpected message but I noticed that you bid on a Nikon Item and I would like to make you an better offert.

My name is Domenico Mariotti and I am General Manager on "Online Retailer Co." from Milano, Italy.

In my free time, as a hobby, I sell diferent goods on Ebay.
If money received within 3 business days, you get 10% OFF and FREE SHIPPING.

Please check my feedback to see that the offer is very serious.
EbayID card: keel33 (648 positives. 544 are from unique users.)
Member since: Sunday, Jan 17, 1999 Location: Italy

In this momment I am able to sell few lenses in unopened box and with all accessories.

Here are few special offers of what I have in this momment :

LENSES

1. Nikon AF 20-35mm f/2.8D Zoom-Nikkor - $799.99
2. Nikon ED-IF AF-S 28-70mm f/2.8 Zoom-Nikkor - $749.99
3. Nikon IF AF 24-85mm f/2.8-4D Zoom - $699.99
4. Nikon AF 200mm f/4D ED-IF Micro Nikkor Lens - $599.99
5. Nikon AF 300mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Nikkor - $2,399.99
6. Nikon AF 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED VR Zoom-Nikkor - $699.99
7. Nikon 1000mm f/11 Reflex-Nikkor - $799.99
8. Nikon AF 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S Nikkor - $2,399.99
9. Nikon AF 500mm f/4 P IF Nikkor AIS - $1,399.99
10. Nikon AF 28mm f/1.4D Wide-Angle Lens - $899.99
11. Nikon AF 600mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S Nikkor - $3,099.99
12. Nikon AF-S 300mm f/2.8D ED-IF II Telephoto Lens (Black) - $1,399.99
13. Nikon ED 50-300mm f/4.5 Zoom-Nikkor Ai-S Lens - $1,199.99
14. Nikon AF 17-35mm f/2.8D Zoom Lens - $799.99
15. Nikon AF-S 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED Lens - $2,399.99
16. Nikon AF 28mm f/1.4D Wide-Angle Lens - $799.99
17. Nikon Nikkor Ed 800 F12 T with Copal 3 1356 - $1,099.99
18. Nikon Nikkor Ed 720 F16 T with Copal 1 1357 - $899.99
19. Nikon f/64 Nikkor 210 5.6 Am Apo-mac Ed with Copal 1 1326 - $999.99
20. NIKKOR FISHEYE 8MM f2.8 NIKON LENS FILTERS - $1,099.99

CAMERAS

1. Nikon D1X Digital Cam-NEW in Box - $1,299.99
2. NIKON F5 W/ NIKON 28-70 & 80-200 2.8 PRO KIT - $2,099.99
3. NIKON F5 W/SIGMA 28-70 & 70-200 2.8 PRO KIT - $2,299.99
4. NIKON F100 W/ SIGMA 28-70 &70-200 2.8 PRO KIT - $1.499.99
5. NIKON F100 W/NIKON 28-70 &80-200 2.8 PRO KIT - $1,299.99
6. NIKON N90S W/SIGMA 28-70 & 70-200 2.8 PRO KIT - $1,099.00
7. NIKON F100 W/TAMRON 28-80 3.5 ASPHERICAL & 75-300 (LD) KIT - $699.99

All units are brand new, sealed in factory box.
All are comming with 5 years international full transferable US warranty from Nikon.
All prices have S&H included.

If you are interested please e-mail me at: mariotti.domeni@1stcounsel.com and I will give all the informations you'll ask for.

I am sure it will be a good business for all.

Looking forward to your e-mail.

Sincerely,

Domenico Mariotti
General Manager
Online Retailer Co.
www.retail-merchant.com

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This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system.
If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and
not through eBay.

 

[kiasu101]

From Italy?
There were too many cases already. You sent the money, the good never comes.
I wouldn't even bother if I were you.
JMTC.

Rgds
:thumbsd:

 

[Adam Goi]

Thread moved to Consumers Corner.

 

[hongsien]

Try to contact past buyers first from ebay: go to his feedback page and search for those persons that bought from him in the past. This ID had not sold anything since June last year! Also, if you go to his companies page, notice that the companies logo on the building is abit slanted, could be just a photoshop thingy......
be careful.

Hong Sien

 

[Tweek]

5. Nikon AF 300mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Nikkor - $2,399.99
8. Nikon AF 400mm f/2.8D IF-ED AF-S Nikkor - $2,399.99

Same price for the two? Hardly believable...hehheh....

 

[Larry]

if you have to question whether it's for real, it usually isn't.

 

[klsss]

yA , it too good to be true .

the so call web site dont even have a address n fax n phone r shared .

i realise there's alot of such " thing " in ebay , there is even 1 that claim he is from singapore, D1x for 400US . WITH NO REFERENCE , PEOPLE STILL BID. "THE POWER OF SINGAPORE BRAND"


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...922732308&rd=1:




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[hongsien]

There was apparently a scam on eBay recently where some genuine ebay ID's were stolen and used by these scammers to sell or buy things on eBay. they usually asked to use only FedEx for getting their items AND will only pay through credit card or Paypal using scammed credit cards as well.

Hong Sien

 

[blizzy]

personally i will only buy if its face to face meet. if u have to mail it.... forget it.

 

[hongsien]

Hi blizzy,

Don't be so scared too lah! I have bought hundreds of items on eBay with no regrets at all!! You only need to be wary and not so gullible to respond or react to certain offers on eBay or other places, if it looks to good to be true, it is usually a scam!! Just like SARS, understand it properly and don't be too paranoid about it. Try a few times on eBay, really it works most of the time! I always make sure there is a pic or ask the seller to send me one, even if they say they don't sell overseas, I always ask first, most of the time they comply if you ask nicely. I hope you will use eBay. It saved me a lot of money on many items!!! (literally hundreds of dollars on LF items).

Hong Sien

 

[klsss]

Originally posted by hongsien
Hi blizzy,

Don't be so scared too lah! I have bought hundreds of items on eBay with no regrets at all!! You only need to be wary and not so gullible to respond or react to certain offers on eBay or other places, if it looks to good to be true, it is usually a scam!! Just like SARS, understand it properly and don't be too paranoid about it. Try a few times on eBay, really it works most of the time! I always make sure there is a pic or ask the seller to send me one, even if they say they don't sell overseas, I always ask first, most of the time they comply if you ask nicely. I hope you will use eBay. It saved me a lot of money on many items!!! (literally hundreds of dollars on LF items).

Hong Sien

agree , i too brought some collectors camera from ebay, so far no regret too.

 

[klsss]

jus recevied another mail form this guy , this time with a address.


Hello,

All our products are brand new, still in
factory sealed box and will come with all
documentation, manuals, original packaging
materials including international receipt. Also
coming with full international transferable
manufacturer warranty.

This unit is located in USA and will be
shipped from there in max. 2 days after the
confirmation of payment.

To protect my business I have adopted the
following polices.

Nobody forces you to accept it. If you don't
agree, I belive it would be better that none of
us lose his time for nothing.

- I DO NOT SHIP TO P.O. OR APO BOXES.
- WIRE TRANSFER VIA WESTERN UNION OR MONEYGRAM IS
THE ONLY FORM OF PAYMENT THAT I ACCEPT.

If money received within 3 business days, you
get 10% OFF and FREE SHIPPING.

The payment will be done trough Moneygram
(www.moneygram.com) or Western Union
(www.westernunion.com) money transfer because
this is the fastest way to send the money to me.

Also if you have a valid CREDIT CARD you will
be able to send the money online via Western Union.

If the amount is bigger then Western Union
accept to send online, you have to go to the
nearest office from where you can send cash
payment on my name and address as follows:

First name: Domenico
Last name: Mariotti
Address: Via Giulini No 5
Zip: 20123
City: Milano
Region: Milano
Country: Italy

Phone/Fax: 31-20-524-1578

After you send the payment, please email me
or fax me the sender's name and address as
appears on the money transfer request and the
MTCN or Reference # which they will provide you.

Thank you again for your interest.

I look forward to having more business with
you in the future!

Sincerely,

Domenico Mariotti
General Manager
Online Retailer Co.
www.retail-merchant.com

 

[Parchiao]

Why don't you forward this email to ebay and let them investigate?

IMHO, transacting with a stranger personally without a medium like ebay is a hit and miss affair. I have on two occassions transacted on personal terms with two very well rated sellers, and mixed results.

The first was from Tokyo for a USD400 used 98% mint condition camera which turned out to be more like 80%. The refund took about three months and I got back about USD380. Lost about USD50.

The second occassion was for a brand new USD1450 camera and lens from Hong Kong. The lens came out good, but the camera would not switch off. I had to send it back at my own expense, and I was given a replacement.

I still transact on personal terms, but I do it selectively and only for smaller ticket items.

 

[agape01]

IMHO, it is not worth considering because he is not protecting the buyer. There is no mention how the buyer is protected when the sale is completed.

To me, that is something important.

In the late 90s when the Fuji FinePix 4900Z came out, a seller in Slovakia was offering it at US$799 including a 64MB memory card. Too good to be true? Well, I went for the deal but panicked after 48 hours when I did not received confirmation that the seller had sent the product. I withdrew my money from Western Union at a service charge, but other than that felt relived that the seller didn't take my money and run away with it. Just a story that I had learnt that never to trust a good thing when you see it.

If you want to buy anything, check what is the selling price against reputable online shops say like B&H. Usually, you are able to tell whether is it a genuine discount or somebody is trying to scam you out of your money.

 

[hongsien]

This particular eBay ad is being discussed on an ebay forum:

http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jsp?forum=31&thread=151134&modifed=20030413103810

Hong Sien

 

[limhousen]

THIS IS A CONFIRMED FRAUD CASE!!!

I am a regular buyer on the internet, but I also regularly post warnings on Yahoo classifieds when I see these posts there. Now you seldom see these people there anymore.

The modus operandi is the same. And a lot are from Italy, Spain, Romania or some eastern european country. I believe they are a syndicate. I know because I nearly got burnt.

1) They target buyers of high value items like laptops, cameras, and camcorders. Their prices reflect a huge discount.

2) They insist on western union or some form of untraceable cash transfer.

3) They even have their own fraudulent escrow website.

4) They can issue tracking numbers for packages that are not even sent out. These numbers are easy to generate by sending out empty packages and then screwing up the paper work so the items don't get to you.

Make sure you know a few things beforehand when buying online or overseas:

1) Western union is as good as sending cold hard cash. A transaction done this way is based entirely on trust. What is your basis for trusting the seller?

2) The seller does not trust you and will not send the camera or lens first and allow you to pay later. They don't even allow COD. Why do you trust him with your thousands of $$$$$$$$$?

3) How much can you afford to lose? There is always a chance the money will be lost with no recourse. I will take a risk if the items are cheap and hard to find, and ONLY if I can afford to lose.

 

[cyrilng]

NEVER pay by Western Union or Moneygram because even if it turns out to be a fraud case, there is NO WAY for you to stop payment or get your money back.