Buying EOS 550D. Help Needed.


Well, the 18-55 Kit is pretty good for a starter, but if you know its limitations, I would suggest you to go for the 17-50mm f2.8 NON VC from TAMRON.

Ok I think I will be buying the prime lens first and once I save enough $$ I will buy the Tamron 18-270mm. Just remember my friend is also using EOS 550D so I can borrow his kit 1. We can share around. :)
 

The purpose of why I'm considering this lens is because at night it can produce better Image Quality then the other two lenses if I'm not wrong.
Wrong. Image quality depends on a lot of factors. I strongly suggest checking the Night Photography forum and check the guidelines there. A proper tripod is more important than a fast lens when shooting still objects. Whether you need a long lens or not depends on your intentions / subjects. Moving objects or snapping friends rather requires a flash light. But that's an advanced topic you should not start for now. Learn in daylight first.
Manual Focus means I need to learn about Aperture and ISO right?
Completely wrong.
Manual focus is about getting a sharp image by manually adjusting the focus ring on the lens. Aperture and ISO are 2 factors of the "Exposure Triangle" with shutter speed being the third one. Learn about exposure and you will understand the interrelation.
Learn to walk, don't rush. As long as you don't have a basic understanding no lens will help you.
 

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Guys if I have offended you all I'm sorry. I keep asking and asking question because I'm only 15 and I will be paying the camera by myself.

Not sure if it's useful. Our public library do have some good books on DSLR photography and perhaps you can learn from there?

for a start, go with a basic kit with whatever DSLR you plan to get, be it sony, nikon or canon.
 

TS, I admire u for wanting to pay for the DSLR camera @ 15. If I were u I'll just buy a 400D to 450D from the BNS section as u can get one for around $600. From there u can learn more about photography and try and practice. Along the way u can read from wiki or even from google book or google about all those wonderful tech things about the camera. FRom there u can learn and grow. Don't worry about what to buy first start basic start simple learn from it and upgrade later.
 

I personally wont buy 2nd hand DSLR for "Learning" purpose.. money is always an issue, for me, i need my self-satisfaction, which i think buying new model DSLR (within budget) will motivate me..

buying 2nd hand DSLR might kill your hobby because there might be a problem in the DSLR since you are too noob to check faulty camera? or you want to get 2nd DSLR with warranty which cost less 300 for the new one? think hard
 

TS, I admire u for wanting to pay for the DSLR camera @ 15. If I were u I'll just buy a 400D to 450D from the BNS section as u can get one for around $600. From there u can learn more about photography and try and practice. Along the way u can read from wiki or even from google book or google about all those wonderful tech things about the camera. FRom there u can learn and grow. Don't worry about what to buy first start basic start simple learn from it and upgrade later.

For me I think ahead. 2nd hand wait got problem and lesser features.
 

I personally wont buy 2nd hand DSLR for "Learning" purpose.. money is always an issue, for me, i need my self-satisfaction, which i think buying new model DSLR (within budget) will motivate me..

buying 2nd hand DSLR might kill your hobby because there might be a problem in the DSLR since you are too noob to check faulty camera? or you want to get 2nd DSLR with warranty which cost less 300 for the new one? think hard

Thanks for your advice.
 

Wrong. Image quality depends on a lot of factors. I strongly suggest checking the Night Photography forum and check the guidelines there. A proper tripod is more important than a fast lens when shooting still objects. Whether you need a long lens or not depends on your intentions / subjects. Moving objects or snapping friends rather requires a flash light. But that's an advanced topic you should not start for now. Learn in daylight first.

I think I will get tripod more then flash. Flash too expensive for me.

Completely wrong.
Manual focus is about getting a sharp image by manually adjusting the focus ring on the lens. Aperture and ISO are 2 factors of the "Exposure Triangle" with shutter speed being the third one. Learn about exposure and you will understand the interrelation.
Learn to walk, don't rush. As long as you don't have a basic understanding no lens will help you.

Ok I will learn more about exposure. Had been reading forums for the past two weeks.
 

understand that you are 15 and very interested in photography. but from what i have read in this thread, i suppose you have little idea abt the technical aspect of photography. for now, i suggest you read up more on ISO, aperture, shutter speed. this 3 components are the basics of photography, along the way you can also read up on exposure and composition too.

since you have a friend who has a 550D, maybe you will want to borrow it from him and try playing around with the functions.

different lens serve different purpose, if you do not understand what are they for, they will be just another white elephant to you.
 

understand that you are 15 and very interested in photography. but from what i have read in this thread, i suppose you have little idea abt the technical aspect of photography. for now, i suggest you read up more on ISO, aperture, shutter speed. this 3 components are the basics of photography, along the way you can also read up on exposure and composition too.

since you have a friend who has a 550D, maybe you will want to borrow it from him and try playing around with the functions.

different lens serve different purpose, if you do not understand what are they for, they will be just another white elephant to you.

Yar that's why I don't want to buy the 18-55mm since my friend have it.
 

i personally prefer my 50mm f1.8 because it's light and I always take portrait.. you might want to play around with 18-200 and find your sweet focal length. if you taking picture in daylight, 18-200 or 18-135mm shouldnt be a problem..
 

Yar that's why I don't want to buy the 18-55mm since my friend have it.
imo, 18-55mm is the very least you should have in your kit. 18mm covers decent wide angle for landscape and 55mm give you some reach for further subjects.

the thing is, does your friend stay very near to you? how often will you guys be shooting together? is the 18-55mm the only lens he has? if he lend it to you, does he has any other lens to use?

if you dont get the 18-55mm, are you gonna get the 50mm F1.8 only? imo, prime lens is not easy to master. the fixed focal length means you lose out on wide angle, it will be a little tight when shooting indoor and as some have mentioned, this particular lens tends to hunt in low light condition.

how comfortable are you, pertaining to the above mentioned?
 

i personally prefer my 50mm f1.8 because it's light and I always take portrait.. you might want to play around with 18-200 and find your sweet focal length. if you taking picture in daylight, 18-200 or 18-135mm shouldnt be a problem..

Yeap read from forum people say daylight will not be a problem.
 

imo, 18-55mm is the very least you should have in your kit. 18mm covers decent wide angle for landscape and 55mm give you some reach for further subjects.

the thing is, does your friend stay very near to you? how often will you guys be shooting together? is the 18-55mm the only lens he has? if he lend it to you, does he has any other lens to use?

if you dont get the 18-55mm, are you gonna get the 50mm F1.8 only? imo, prime lens is not easy to master. the fixed focal length means you lose out on wide angle, it will be a little tight when shooting indoor and as some have mentioned, this particular lens tends to hunt in low light condition.

how comfortable are you, pertaining to the above mentioned?

Yes he is my classmate. He live in Serangoon and I Bishan. I will be going out with him for photo shoot and another friend who use Nikon D300s. Don't want to get 18-55mm because I will be buying 18-270mm in maybe 4-5 months time.
 

Yes he is my classmate. He live in Serangoon and I Bishan. I will be going out with him for photo shoot and another friend who use Nikon D300s. Don't want to get 18-55mm because I will be buying 18-270mm in maybe 4-5 months time.
so the lens you are going to buy is? or you are going to buy the body only and borrow the lens from your friend?

is it on permanent loan or only when you go shoot with him?
 

Yes he is my classmate. He live in Serangoon and I Bishan. I will be going out with him for photo shoot and another friend who use Nikon D300s. Don't want to get 18-55mm because I will be buying 18-270mm in maybe 4-5 months time.
May people have given you some advice ... but it seems you can afford to disregard it. Ok, your choice, your money. But you wouldn't be the first one coming later trying to sell the lens to get something different, asking the same question again "Which lens to get". I guess it's close to esoteric for a newbie like you to know exactly which lens is the right one. That's why people recommend you using the offered kit lenses 18-55 or 18-135.
 

May people have given you some advice ... but it seems you can afford to disregard it. Ok, your choice, your money. But you wouldn't be the first one coming later trying to sell the lens to get something different, asking the same question again "Which lens to get". I guess it's close to esoteric for a newbie like you to know exactly which lens is the right one. That's why people recommend you using the offered kit lenses 18-55 or 18-135.

I appreciate everybody help. I mean if I can borrow my friend 18-55mm why not I buy 50mm and I can lend him too. My friend and I had agree to share lens once I bought. I am confirm that I will be buying 18-270 or 18-200 in about 4 months time. The reason why I want to get the 50mm one is because if I'm not right in low light situation the quality will be much better then 18-270mm. Instead of spending $120 than $300+ for a flash why not? ANW I admit I newbie. I will be getting a Dry Cabinet too am not sure if the Digi Ad36L is good. Tripod maybe also borrow from friend if not buy. My budget is around 1.4k.
 

I appreciate everybody help. I mean if I can borrow my friend 18-55mm why not I buy 50mm and I can lend him too. My friend and I had agree to share lens once I bought. I am confirm that I will be buying 18-270 or 18-200 in about 4 months time. The reason why I want to get the 50mm one is because if I'm not right in low light situation the quality will be much better then 18-270mm. Instead of spending $120 than $300+ for a flash why not? ANW I admit I newbie. I will be getting a Dry Cabinet too am not sure if the Digi Ad36L is good. Tripod maybe also borrow from friend if not buy. My budget is around 1.4k.

I think BEST at IMM is clearing their 450D (new, body only) at very good price. Get that and your 50mm for now. :thumbsup:
 

I appreciate everybody help. I mean if I can borrow my friend 18-55mm why not I buy 50mm and I can lend him too. My friend and I had agree to share lens once I bought. I am confirm that I will be buying 18-270 or 18-200 in about 4 months time. The reason why I want to get the 50mm one is because if I'm not right in low light situation the quality will be much better then 18-270mm. Instead of spending $120 than $300+ for a flash why not? ANW I admit I newbie. I will be getting a Dry Cabinet too am not sure if the Digi Ad36L is good. Tripod maybe also borrow from friend if not buy. My budget is around 1.4k.
Bro...i can guarantee you 50mm F1.8 will not provide the image quality you want especially in low light because low light situations always seem to screw up the accuracy of the autofocus.

What worse is that by starting off with prime lens, you will not be able to shoot everything you want to capture leading you to frustration and perhaps leaving your DSLR at one corner unused.

Anyway, I also live in bishan and would be more than willing to allow you to test my 50mm F1.8 for several hours before finally deciding on purchasing yours. In the meantime I can also get a chance to try out the 550D.:D

Dont get me wrong, the 50mm F1.8 is a great lens but its got its strengths and weaknesses. Under daylight the images produced are very sharp and have nice colours. However Low light is definitely not a strength of this lens IMO.

Shoot me a PM when you've bought your 550D and want to try out the 50mm F1.8:)
 

Bro...i can guarantee you 50mm F1.8 will not provide the image quality you want especially in low light because low light situations always seem to screw up the accuracy of the autofocus.
Do note that the AF motor in the lens is only executing the focus command given by the body according the detection accuracy of the AF sensors. In low light all entry level bodies will have problems sooner or later. But even with my Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 on 350D I'm able to get decent pictures. One just needs to learn and understand how the AF system works and support accordingly. Hint: contrast patterns are used to determine the necessary focusing of the lens and using single focus point (preferable center AF) avoids wild "guessing" of the camera.
Once there is the AF assist light of a flash it all works very nicely. The red pattern light helps a lot to get proper focus.

TS: If you start playing with 50mm and 18-55 then go ahead. maybe you'll rethink your idea of 18-2xx anyway. As long as you think and evaluate you can't be that wrong. Worst is to get a lens just because everybody tells you "Must get" without verification whether it's useful or not.
 

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