Bronica 645

[Lance]

Hi,

I am a MF newbie, i have been looking ard and the Bronica 645 caught my eye, i saw a shop selling a good looking set, almost new and i like to know how much should i been looking to spend if i intend to get a that set with spare film backing ?

I hope to get advice for prices bc i dun wan to be conned...

THanks !

 

[kex]

Hi,

I am a MF newbie, i have been looking ard and the Bronica 645 caught my eye, i saw a shop selling a good looking set, almost new and i like to know how much should i been looking to spend if i intend to get a that set with spare film backing ?

I hope to get advice for prices bc i dun wan to be conned...

THanks !

what lens does it comes with ?

any grip ?

how much the shop quote u ?

 

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Hi,

I am a MF newbie, i have been looking ard and the Bronica 645 caught my eye, i saw a shop selling a good looking set, almost new and i like to know how much should i been looking to spend if i intend to get a that set with spare film backing ?

I hope to get advice for prices bc i dun wan to be conned...

THanks !

I am using a Bronica SQAi myself, but then I would have to say you might be better off with a Mamiya 645 Pro TL instead. The price are similar, but then there are more support for Mamiya 645 Pro TL and there are more lenses for Mamiya, there are even cheap russian lenses for Mamiya 645 Pro TL for you to use if you do not want to spend too much money buying Bronica orginal lenses.

 

[Lance]

I am using a Bronica SQAi myself, but then I would have to say you might be better off with a Mamiya 645 Pro TL instead. The price are similar, but then there are more support for Mamiya 645 Pro TL and there are more lenses for Mamiya, there are even cheap russian lenses for Mamiya 645 Pro TL for you to use if you do not want to spend too much money buying Bronica orginal lenses.

Hi, how much is the pro going for ? but i looking at 2nd hand set, not rich to go for brand new one leh.. hee :sweat:

 

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Hi, how much is the pro going for ? but i looking at 2nd hand set, not rich to go for brand new one leh.. hee :sweat:

Basically, I would not buy it in Singapore. It is going for <1K in Ebay, but it is selling for like 1.6 - 2k in Singapore.

Check out with ebay.

You have to note that Bronica is not longer supported by Tamron. Meaning when it goes, it goes.

 

[ricohflex]

singscott selling full BRONICA ETRSi set
body, prism, 4 backs, polaroid backs, maybe 3 lenses, etc..... all for only $3,000 in yahoo auction. you can pm singscott . he is CS member.

 

[Feinwerkbau]

I used a ETRSii (I think) before, with rapid winder, 3 different lenses and different backs (135/120).

Fantastic lenses, and an equally good, solid body, but you have to be aware that since the political/business side of Bronica has burst, down the road, finding parts and service may be increasingly difficult, and in time, impossible. If the same were to happen to Mamiya, finding parts/service would not be so difficult as there are a much higher volume of mamyia gear floating around at any given time.

It's a pity, really, as I feel that the Zenzanon lenses were on par with Hassie's Zeiss, and in some tests, a wee bit superior (for the 6x6 lenses).

Also, since the economic situation affecting Bronica, most unfortunately, the value of Bronica equipment has generally fallen quite sharply as opposed to say, Mamiya.

As much I love Bronica, I would offer the (at the moment) healthier adivise of plunking your cash for a Mamiya.

BTW, I have also owned and used Mamiya's 645 equipment. Only thing I never liked about it were the focal plane shutters. Nothing else. Thousands of professionals around the world make their living (and riches) with Mamiyas.

I still feel sad for the Zenzanons (and manual Zuikos though). Some of them were real classics that would give Zeiss a run for their money, and beat them, ever so slightly.

 

[singscott]

Ricohflex Thanks for the recommend Check this out a full set like new condition going for $3000.00 only

The set included 01 pc Bronica ETRSi Camera Body 01 pc Bronica Focusing Screen Ei - Microprism/Split-Image (135) 01 pc Bronica ETRSi Waist-Level Finder E 01 pc Bronica AE-III Prism Finder E 01 pc Bronica ETRSi Motor Winder 01 pc Bronica ETRSi Film Back-E 135-N 03 pcs Bronica ETRSi Film Back-Ei 120 02 pcs Bronica ETR POLAROID Film Back E 01 pc Bronica Zenzanon-PE 60mm F2.8 Lens 01 pc Bronica Zenzanon-PE 75mm F2.8 Lens 01 pc Bronica Zenzanon-PE 150mm F3.5 Lens 01 pc Bronica Auto Extension Tube E-28 All must go. If you will to buy these brand new it will cost you above S$10k at lest. If you are interested PM me or call 9006 4997

 

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I used a ETRSii (I think) before, with rapid winder, 3 different lenses and different backs (135/120).

Fantastic lenses, and an equally good, solid body, but you have to be aware that since the political/business side of Bronica has burst, down the road, finding parts and service may be increasingly difficult, and in time, impossible. If the same were to happen to Mamiya, finding parts/service would not be so difficult as there are a much higher volume of mamyia gear floating around at any given time.

It's a pity, really, as I feel that the Zenzanon lenses were on par with Hassie's Zeiss, and in some tests, a wee bit superior (for the 6x6 lenses).

Also, since the economic situation affecting Bronica, most unfortunately, the value of Bronica equipment has generally fallen quite sharply as opposed to say, Mamiya.

As much I love Bronica, I would offer the (at the moment) healthier adivise of plunking your cash for a Mamiya.

BTW, I have also owned and used Mamiya's 645 equipment. Only thing I never liked about it were the focal plane shutters. Nothing else. Thousands of professionals around the world make their living (and riches) with Mamiyas.

I still feel sad for the Zenzanons (and manual Zuikos though). Some of them were real classics that would give Zeiss a run for their money, and beat them, ever so slightly.

I think Mamiya 645 does come with Leaf Shutters Lenses, thus there is nothing not to like Mamiya. But then I am Using a SQAi ;D .....

You mentioned you were using a ETRSi, was that the one Orion were selling?

 

[singscott]

Mamiya only have one leaf shuttler lens. It a 75mm lens. The rest are focal plane shuttler. So x-sycro is only 1/125. Where leaf shuttler sycro at all speed

 

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Mamiya only have one leaf shuttler lens. It a 75mm lens. The rest are focal plane shuttler. So x-sycro is only 1/125. Where leaf shuttler sycro at all speed

Mamiya Pro TL has quite a few leaf shutter lens as far as I know they have at least :

55mm f/2.8 N/L
70mm f/2.8 LS
80mm f/2.8 N/L LS
150mm f/3.8 N/L

covering from Wide Angle to short telephoto ...... above that, you will be better off with a Tripod.

The advantage with Mamiya 645 over ETRSi 645 is they have a choice of focal plane lens and a leaf shutter lens.

JFI, the Leaf shutter lens can only synco up to 1/500s even though the body can go up to 1/1000s with Focal Plane Shutter lens as the shutter then will be in the Lens which is only up to 1/500s.

To add in some sweetener, you can even buy Russian Made Cheap lenses which Optical quality are similar to mount onto Mamiya, due to the Focal Plane Shutter capability.

 

[singscott]

Amazing ...... I always tot the Mamiya Pro TL has quite a few leaf shutter lens as far as I know they have at least :

55mm f/2.8 N/L
70mm f/2.8 LS
80mm f/2.8 N/L LS
150mm f/3.8 N/L

covering from Wide Angle to short telephoto ...... above that, you will be better off with a Tripod.

The advantage with Mamiya 645 over ETRSi 645 is they have a choice of focal plane lens and a leaf shutter lens.

JFI, the Leaf shutter lens can only synco up to 1/500s even though the body can go up to 1/1000s with Focal Plane Shutter lens as the shutter then will be in the Lens which is only up to 1/500s.

To add in some sweetener, you can even buy Russian Made Cheap lenses which Optical quality are similar to mount onto Mamiya, due to the Focal Plane Shutter capability.
(ok, I did research before I bought a Bronica SQAi)

Ops seem like my informations a lot back dated :embrass:

 

[singscott]

Ya you are right as I say my information were wrong, I got it mix up. Mamiya 645 AFD is 1/125 and the lens should be 70mm instead of 75mm. Happy? ;p

 

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Lets take out the banal talk and the inaccurate information let the thread creator make his decisions .... ok?

Wat say you?

 

[singscott]

I already say my information was inaccurate three post ago :angel: If I made a mistake I am ready to admit and move on. Not like some people in CS. Hey I didn't say mamiya are no good, I am a mamiya owner as well. I just happen to an excellent Bronica ETRSi to sell and at a good price as well

 

[taiwanapurasteve]

I am not sure if you've decided yet, but if I had the $$ I would definitely be going for Singscott's stuff; it’s a great looking, complete set. But, since I didn't have the funds, I had to look elsewhere.

CP is selling a Mamiya 645 Pro TL set right now for $1.550 (2.8 lens) or $1655 (1.9 lens). It's a completely manual set, unless you upgrade to the AE prism $2.1K. Either way, way it looks like a good way to go for a newbie like myself.

Just my .02 :think:

 

[singscott]

I am not sure if you've decided yet, but if I had the $$ I would definitely be going for Singscott's stuff; it&#8217;s a great looking, complete set. But, since I didn't have the funds, I had to look elsewhere.

CP is selling a Mamiya 645 Pro TL set right now for $1.550 (2.8 lens) or $1655 (1.9 lens). It's a completely manual set, unless you upgrade to the AE prism $2.1K. Either way, way it looks like a good way to go for a newbie like myself.

Just my .02 :think:

Thanks singapurasteve. I also have a Hasselblad 553 ELX with 45PM prism and 120 back for S$2500.00 and a Rollei 6008 Interal kit with 80mm PQS lens and 120 film mag selling for $3200.00. Too many medium format :embrass: Interested parties please pm me or call 9006 4997 :angel: