Bokeh Enhancement Test!


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Timber Wolf

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Hello guys! =)

If you remember, I posted a thread on bokeh problems with my Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 (harsh bokeh etc). I decided not to bear with it anymore because well, I paid quite abit for the lens, and an otherwise exemplary lens shouldn't exhibit such ugly bokeh problems.

So. I set out to solve the problem by making a "filter" to mimic the apodization filter of the 135mm f/2.8 STF lens. My materials used are very crude as I don't have the means of manipulating glass.

Materials used:
Inkjet printer
Printable transparency
Double sided tape
Quite a bit of prayer. :bsmilie:

How I did it:
Use photoshop to create a radial gradient with a white centre and dark grey edge.
Print the gradient onto the transparency, diameter around 35mm (suits my lens, may vary for others)
Paste onto back of lens behind the rear element with double sided tape.
Take care not to smudge the transparency with fingerprints!

Sample shot: Cat. Not up to my standards, but heck this is just a test right =)
74041272_badce3125e_o.jpg


Findings:
Flare went up alot. Image had a nice ethereal look to it. Something like in-camera dreamy effect! (see the cat's ear on the right. The white of the fur is bleeding into it.

Resolution was not affected. The cat's eyes and whatnot are still very sharp.

Bokeh was MUCH improved. See cat's front paw. Even at 10cm away from point of focus the paw is nicely blurred out. The orange/blue background is about 1m away. The green and brown stuff are piles of leaves, nicely out of focus here. Creamy xD

Conclusion:
The apodization filter effect really works. Out of focus areas have that smooth look to them.
I shall try to use this for a portrait session tmrw.

Suggestions for improvement:
Use glass. That should reduce flare.
Use a laser printer and print on normal transparency. The coated side for inkjet transparencies has a mild grid pattern which causes more flare (diffraction) and lines on some parts of out of focus areas (not evident in this photo)

Cheers!
QX

Please suggest improvements and comment!
Thanks!
 

another way is just to let your glass grow fungus. more natural results.
 

Drudkh said:
another way is just to let your glass grow fungus. more natural results.

u very stress issit... christmas coming... :nono:
 

Drudkh said:
another way is just to let your glass grow fungus. more natural results.

No wonder the bokeh of my Cosplay pics so nice! Tamron 28-200 with fungus on front lens.
 

Timber Wolf said:
No wonder the bokeh of my Cosplay pics so nice! Tamron 28-200 with fungus on front lens.
cosplay pics? where?
 

Del_CtrlnoAlt said:
u very stress issit... christmas coming... :nono:
yes very stress.. how come you still not selling? :bsmilie:
 

Check my pix on the last page of the KMSLR Photos (not the lens test gallery) The post made by me.

That (flaring) wasn't my intention of making the filter, rather an unintended but expected consequence. My intention was to make the highlight discs in out of focus area darken toward the edges, so the circle isn't abrupt but instead tapers off, giving a smoother look.
 

Timber Wolf said:
Check my pix on the last page of the KMSLR Photos (not the lens test gallery) The post made by me.

That (flaring) wasn't my intention of making the filter, rather an unintended but expected consequence. My intention was to make the highlight discs in out of focus area darken toward the edges, so the circle isn't abrupt but instead tapers off, giving a smoother look.
saw that, not enough fungus yet! :bsmilie:
 

LOL! What means enough? More flare than image? :bsmilie:

Hmm. DCA can you work with glass well? =P
 

Timber Wolf said:
LOL! What means enough? More flare than image? :bsmilie:

Hmm. DCA can you work with glass well? =P

wan fungus not difficult wat, leave it under the rain & sun lor... u can even get rust FOC
 

Drudkh said:
yes very stress.. how come you still not selling? :bsmilie:

I give him idea on selling. Sell to the person by instalment, sure got ppl grab one ;p
 

The minolta lenses I tried all have acceptable to beautiful bokeh... I had problems with bokeh for certain sigma lenses, which I find tend to fare poorly in bokeh, especially the sigma 105mm F2.8 macro. Its competitor, the tamron 90mm f2.8 wins it hands down in this area. I still however own a sigma 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO Macro, and as long as you don't shoot like into bright spots/highlights, the ugly bokeh would not be obvious.

Maybe you can try some test shots that have OOF highlights, so as to see if your bokeh enhancement really works... The pic posted does not have any obvious highlights to compare with, hehe... For me at least, beautiful bokeh gets more diffused the further you get from the centre from the circular highlights.
 

Timber Wolf said:
Hello guys! =)

If you remember, I posted a thread on bokeh problems with my Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 (harsh bokeh etc). I decided not to bear with it anymore because well, I paid quite abit for the lens, and an otherwise exemplary lens shouldn't exhibit such ugly bokeh problems.

So. I set out to solve the problem by making a "filter" to mimic the apodization filter of the 135mm f/2.8 STF lens. My materials used are very crude as I don't have the means of manipulating glass.

Materials used:
Inkjet printer
Printable transparency
Double sided tape
Quite a bit of prayer. :bsmilie:

How I did it:
Use photoshop to create a radial gradient with a white centre and dark grey edge.
Print the gradient onto the transparency, diameter around 35mm (suits my lens, may vary for others)
Paste onto back of lens behind the rear element with double sided tape.
Take care not to smudge the transparency with fingerprints!

Sample shot: Cat. Not up to my standards, but heck this is just a test right =)
74041272_badce3125e_o.jpg


Findings:
Flare went up alot. Image had a nice ethereal look to it. Something like in-camera dreamy effect! (see the cat's ear on the right. The white of the fur is bleeding into it.

Resolution was not affected. The cat's eyes and whatnot are still very sharp.

Bokeh was MUCH improved. See cat's front paw. Even at 10cm away from point of focus the paw is nicely blurred out. The orange/blue background is about 1m away. The green and brown stuff are piles of leaves, nicely out of focus here. Creamy xD

Conclusion:
The apodization filter effect really works. Out of focus areas have that smooth look to them.
I shall try to use this for a portrait session tmrw.

Suggestions for improvement:
Use glass. That should reduce flare.
Use a laser printer and print on normal transparency. The coated side for inkjet transparencies has a mild grid pattern which causes more flare (diffraction) and lines on some parts of out of focus areas (not evident in this photo)

Cheers!
QX

Please suggest improvements and comment!
Thanks!
Wow....all that workflow would be possisble with just using the soft focus 100mm.

rgds,
sulhan
 

Hi Sulhan. I wish I had that lens.
And perhaps and 85mm F/1.4G with STF function. ^^

QX
 

Hiee Bro...

One possible way is to actually take use the lens blurr function by selective section and repeat the lens blurring gradually and merge the layers...in PS.

I saw your sigma bokeh and that looks like a aperture blade edge artifacts that give that non clean bokeh. Dirt on lens may cause that too. The dot looks wierd... maybe one fo these outings you can bring along and we can have a look..

Rgds,
Sulhan
 

Timber Wolf said:
Hello guys! =)

So. I set out to solve the problem by making a "filter" to mimic the apodization filter of the 135mm f/2.8 STF lens. My materials used are very crude as I don't have the means of manipulating glass.

I saw this lens today at Cathay Peninsula. Didn't ask how much though.
 

Ben1223 said:
I saw this lens today at Cathay Peninsula. Didn't ask how much though.
It's been there for a long while. Probably growing fungus already. Whoever buys that will be very lucky, cos the bokeh will be even better! ;p
 

Drudkh said:
It's been there for a long while. Probably growing fungus already. Whoever buys that will be very lucky, cos the bokeh will be even better! ;p

dont have to buy filter loh, confirm soft pic haha
:devil:
 

GENO said:
dont have to buy filter loh, confirm soft pic haha
:devil:


must be careful
different fungus got different colour
might affect the wb

also different pattern of fungus
can cause the bokeh shape to change
best is grow those like snowflake design
 

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