Blank Film???

[baschia]

Dear Clubsnappers,

I just went to pick up my 120 film from fotohub, but they told me my film was blank. I've shot about 20 rolls with my Hassy and have never lost an exposure, now a whole film was apparently blank. I saw the 'negative', it had no markings at the top and the bottom. I find this all very strange. Has anything like that happened to anyone here before? I'd be grateful for your advice.

Thanks

Sebastian

 

[kgston]

Was the film clear or black? Colour or black and white film?

 

[sprewell]

The only time it happened to my GF was when she rolled the negative in the opposite way into the film back. It means that the back of the roll (with wordings and numbers) was exposed instead of the negative.

 

[Scandiacus]

Not even film type/name are on the sides? Maybe they used the wrong chemicals? =/

 

[baschia]

The film was clear and not black. I definitely did not put it in the wrong way, as I saw the 'exposed' label on the roll.

The only thing I'm not 100% sure about is if it was color or b+w.

I have asked them to check again to see if they didn't mix up the roll. Will update if they find anything.

Thanks for reading!

 

[neoro]

The only time it happened to my GF was when she rolled the negative in the opposite way into the film back. It means that the back of the roll (with wordings and numbers) was exposed instead of the negative.

For the hassy, at least to my knowledge if you load it on the wrong direction the film back will jam!

The film was clear and not black. I definitely did not put it in the wrong way, as I saw the 'exposed' label on the roll.

The only thing I'm not 100% sure about is if it was color or b+w.

I have asked them to check again to see if they didn't mix up the roll. Will update if they find anything.

Thanks for reading!

You may have missed the catch when you load, resulting in the film not advancing at all. What you developed is a blank film, resulting in a clear negative.

 

[kgston]

For the hassy, at least to my knowledge if you load it on the wrong direction the film back will jam!



You may have missed the catch when you load, resulting in the film not advancing at all. What you developed is a blank film, resulting in a clear negative.

The thing is that ts mentioned that there was no top and bottom film markings. Besides, for 120 film, its pretty obvious if the roll was advanced to the end or not...

 

[excelsius]

Sounds like a lab mistake. If it was the photographer's fault, it should have the film markings. No markings, means development is faulty.

 

[catchlights]

The only time it happened to my GF was when she rolled the negative in the opposite way into the film back. It means that the back of the roll (with wordings and numbers) was exposed instead of the negative.

For the hassy, at least to my knowledge if you load it on the wrong direction the film back will jam!


You may have missed the catch when you load, resulting in the film not advancing at all. What you developed is a blank film, resulting in a clear negative.

what sprewell said was instead the emulsion of the film facing the lens, it is the backing paper facing the lens.

the film emulsion was facing the pressure plate of the film back when loaded.

 

[catchlights]

The thing is that ts mentioned that there was no top and bottom film markings. Besides, for 120 film, its pretty obvious if the roll was advanced to the end or not...

Sounds like a lab mistake. If it was the photographer's fault, it should have the film markings. No markings, means development is faulty.

yes, agree, no markings at all, either the fault of the labs or film is faulty. but TS can't remember what film was that, than that is very hard to find out

 

[baschia]

Thanks for the many replies. I'm going back tonight, hopefully they will have found out more about this issue from their (fotohub) side.

As for the film, it was either Kodak Porta VC400 or Ilford Delta 400.

Cheers

Sebastian

 

[neoro]

what sprewell said was instead the emulsion of the film facing the lens, it is the backing paper facing the lens.

the film emulsion was facing the pressure plate of the film back when loaded.

Oh yeap, that was what I meant, as it happened to me after shooting with the rolleiflex for some time, and re-visiting the hassy system.

 

[lkkang]

Not even film type/name are on the sides? Maybe they used the wrong chemicals? =/

I seriously do not think that the lab makes the mistake.. very very unlikely.

- if you have loaded the film correctly, then the next possibility is the ISO setting ... perhaps ..

 

[tomohitogo]

Thanks for the many replies. I'm going back tonight, hopefully they will have found out more about this issue from their (fotohub) side.

As for the film, it was either Kodak Porta VC400 or Ilford Delta 400.

Cheers

Sebastian

Sebastian, if the entire roll is completely clear and even the film data & numbering is gone, it means either 1) the entire roll was rolled out in open light - because the light has completely exposed every bit of the film, or 2) they have overprocessed the film till all the emulsion has disappeared from the acetate or 3) you have used C41 to process black & white film, upon which the bleaching process would strip everything from the B&W film - leaving you with a clear acetate base.

 

[nstclicks]

Sebastian, if the entire roll is completely clear and even the film data & numbering is gone, it means either 1) the entire roll was rolled out in open light - because the light has completely exposed every bit of the film, or 2) they have overprocessed the film till all the emulsion has disappeared from the acetate or 3) you have used C41 to process black & white film, upon which the bleaching process would strip everything from the B&W film - leaving you with a clear acetate base.

Actually, if the film were completely exposed, it would be black not clear. Given that the TS is not sure if it was Portra or Delta, I suspect it was (3). If the lab didn't notice, though, it would be their fault.

 

[tomohitogo]

Actually, if the film were completely exposed, it would be black not clear. Given that the TS is not sure if it was Portra or Delta, I suspect it was (3). If the lab didn't notice, though, it would be their fault.

Ah yes, my apologies. I was thinking of it all in terms of positive (slide) film. Sorry, sorry, wasn't thinking clearly. But yes, you would really get a clear roll of film (all clear) if you used a C41 process on B&W film. Most likely lab mistake, or the service person was a non-photographic person who didn't bother to know the difference between the types of film and the development processes...

 

[boyboy]

Dear Clubsnappers,

I just went to pick up my 120 film from fotohub, but they told me my film was blank. I've shot about 20 rolls with my Hassy and have never lost an exposure, now a whole film was apparently blank. I saw the 'negative', it had no markings at the top and the bottom. I find this all very strange. Has anything like that happened to anyone here before? I'd be grateful for your advice.

Thanks

Sebastian

I did a search on the internet after I got two rolls of BLANK 35mm Lucky 100 (silver halide b/w film). It happens when you take normal b/w film and C41 process it.

The edge markings are all gone. Same symptoms as you. What I got were light grey film strips, transparent.

The shop i sent it to gave me two rolls of b/w film in compensation, but I am boycotting them nonetheless in future, as well as the lab they send it to (their own affiliated lab)

So while searching for a new lab on this forum, I thought fotohub seemed very promising. But now I see this also happen at fotohub, damn sian man.

My regular place which screwed up my lucky film (how ironic...) also accidentally cross processed my slide film about two years back.. I assumed it would be an isolated case but seems like this isn't the case.

Btw, I stay in bukit batok.