[ BBBBug ] - When is the EP3 on sale in Singapore?

[blurboiboi]

I'm curious on this observation.

For discussion sake, I'd downloaded the ORF file of E-P3 and E-PL2 from dpreview.com and exported to JPEG (High Quality) with v1.2 of Olympus Viewer 2. Nothing is adjusted. Full EXIF intact. Here's the result:

E-P3





E-PL2



Is E-P3 image still on the warmer side? Are both E-P3 and E-PL2 image quality still as terrible?

think ep3 has a slight improvement... but think juz a tiny winy bit...
but i believe the AF should be much faster ba...

 

[Berkins]

I am in Hongkong now, saw the EP3 selling at HK$6880 which is ard SGD$1060 at 6.3 rate.

With kit lens or just body?

 

[tomcat]

I'm curious on this observation.

For discussion sake, I'd downloaded the ORF file of E-P3 and E-PL2 from dpreview.com and exported to JPEG (High Quality) with v1.2 of Olympus Viewer 2. Nothing is adjusted. Full EXIF intact. Here's the result:

E-P3



E-PL2



Is E-P3 image still on the warmer side? Are both E-P3 and E-PL2 image quality still as terrible?

The E-P3 image is still warmer than that of the E-PL2.
Are both images ISO 3200 ?
For the E-PL2, I am quite happy with its ISO 3200 performance as long as I do not view it at 100% crop. It is definitely a lot better than that of the E-P1/2 and E-3.
When I said they were both terrible in the dpreview comparison widget at ISO 3200, it was if they were viewed at 100%.

In any case, I do find that ACR is not a good raw convertor for Olympus RAW (as well as Sony RAW) and tends to produce jpegs that are noisier (even worse for Sony RAW) compared to Olympus Viewer when viewed and compared at 100% crop. Personally, I would never use ACR to convert Olympus RAW files unless I am extremely rush for time and don't need the best image quality.

 

[Sunny9036]

With kit lens.

 

[diCam]

The E-P3 image is still warmer than that of the E-PL2.
Are both images ISO 3200 ?
For the E-PL2, I am quite happy with its ISO 3200 performance as long as I do not view it at 100% crop. It is definitely a lot better than that of the E-P1/2 and E-3.
When I said they were both terrible in the dpreview comparison widget at ISO 3200, it was if they were viewed at 100%.

In any case, I do find that ACR is not a good raw convertor for Olympus RAW (as well as Sony RAW) and tends to produce jpegs that are noisier (even worse for Sony RAW) compared to Olympus Viewer when viewed and compared at 100% crop. Personally, I would never use ACR to convert Olympus RAW files unless I am extremely rush for time and don't need the best image quality.

Both images are ISO 3200. I downloaded the ORFs from dpreview.com. Full EXIF intact. You are able to view this information.

I'll find time to post the 100% crop images.

 

[kei1309]

Typo?

yea i guess LOL.

the guy at CP said next week stocks are arriving. but limited

 

[diCam]

To satisfy my curiosity. :angel:

For discussion only.

Note:

(1) ORF of E-PL2 and E-P3 was downloaded from dpreview.com
(2) ISO for both images are 3200. Full EXIF intact can be viewed from my Flickr Photostream.
(3) Olympus Viewer 2 v1.2 was used to export to JPEG (High Quality). No adjustment is done.
(4) Both images were cropped to approximately at 100%.

E-P3



E-PL2

 

[Berkins]

With kit lens.

Thanks.....looks like sg again outpriced by hk....1230 vs 1060 for kit.

 

[tomcat]

To satisfy my curiosity. :angel:

For discussion only.

Note:

(1) ORF of E-PL2 and E-P3 was downloaded from dpreview.com
(2) ISO for both images are 3200. Full EXIF intact can be viewed from my Flickr Photostream.
(3) Olympus Viewer 2 v1.2 was used to export to JPEG (High Quality). No adjustment is done.
(4) Both images were cropped to approximately at 100%.

Your images don't look like 100% crops. Maybe they were shrinked by ClubSnap after embedding in your post. I find that if your image exceeds a certain width, ClubSnap will shrink it to fit their preferred display width (That's why I had to to redo my image below to stack them vertically so that the individual images could be displayed as true 100% crops).

Anyway, this is my results. I downloaded the ISO 3200 RAW images for E-P3, E-PL2 and NEX 5. The Olympus images were converted without adjustments by Olympus Viewer 1.2 and Sony image by its native raw converter Image Data Converter SR v3.2. The 100% crop of the same portion for all 3 cameras is compared below.

What's the verdict? :think:

And to illustrate what I said earlier about using ACR as raw converter, this is the result from the dpreview comparison widget which uses ACR for all raw conversions.

Noisy, noisy, noisy...

 

[diCam]

Your images don't look like 100% crops. Maybe they were shrinked by ClubSnap after embedding in your post. I find that if your image exceeds a certain width, ClubSnap will shrink it to fit their preferred display width (That's why I had to to redo my image below to stack them vertically so that the individual images could be displayed as true 100% crops).

Anyway, this is my results. I downloaded the ISO 3200 RAW images for E-P3, E-PL2 and NEX 5. The Olympus images were converted without adjustments by Olympus Viewer 1.2 and Sony image by its native raw converter Image Data Converter SR v3.2. The 100% crop of the same portion for all 3 cameras is compared below.

What's the verdict? :think:

And to illustrate what I said earlier about using ACR as raw converter, this is the result from the dpreview comparison widget which uses ACR for all raw conversions.

Noisy, noisy, noisy...

tomcat, thanks.

From the images you had posted, comparing to E-PL2, E-P3's image is slightly warmer. Also, the color is richer and produced more details. Noise is better controlled.

E-P3 and NEX 5 seems to be able to produce the same level of details. Noise control seems similar for both model. Color wise, I prefer E-P3. It's richer.

I don't bother to look at the images processed with ACR. The software does not do justice to the respective manufacturer's RAW file.

I always wonder, why wouldn't the reviewer use the manufacturer's standard software to do the conversion and then for comparison? Isn't such method incorrect for the purpose of review? Using third party's software to process the RAW file does not showcase the respective manufacturer's intended image quality. This could have cause readers to form a wrong impression of the camera's capability.

 

[wonglp]

thanks for sharing tomcat, diCam. ep-3 has improved in the noise department. i shoot jpegs so the above test is what I would need, i seldom look at dpreview's.

 

[iguoh]

I called CP today to check. Stocks expected next week but no one is sure exactly when.

 

[jlpk007]

anyone heard of the new VF3 (supposely cheaper than VF2) ?
wonder they have any bundle of EP3 with VF3?

 

[cichlid]

anyone heard of the new VF3 (supposely cheaper than VF2) ?
wonder they have any bundle of EP3 with VF3?

My guess is that the EVF3 will come later, so it's not possible to bundle with initial EP3 batch.

 

[jim khoo]

some of the shops here in KL are selling the E-P3; however, not abundantly.
here's the image of a happy guy. the one behind the camera is now heavily
in credit card debt.

e-p3: "the happy guy"

editing: none; only resize and frame-up in photobucket.

 

[denn23]

I am in Hongkong now, saw the EP3 selling at HK$6880 which is ard SGD$1060 at 6.3 rate.

hi, is there a particular shop u go to? im heading to HK soon. would love to get it there..

 

[SNAPDINER]

My friend bot the ep3 from Stanley Photo in HK for 6700HKD about 2 weeks ago.

 

[nemesis32]

My friend bot the ep3 from Stanley Photo in HK for 6700HKD about 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks ago? I don't think thats possible as official launched date is 22nd July...

 

[nemesis32]

With regards to the images posted... It is quite clear that EP3 performance in terms of sharpness and noise are much improved, which i believed is due to the tweaked sensor. Also, read online that the AF is super fast.

 

[elgkh]

With regards to the images posted... It is quite clear that EP3 performance in terms of sharpness and noise are much improved, which i believed is due to the tweaked sensor. Also, read online that the AF is super fast.

Am sure those who have handled the EP3 can confirm the AF is super fast

Tomcat and diCam, which Noise Reduction setting did you use in Oly Viewer (off/low/med/high)?