Bad experience with Digitalrev


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Dunno why having bad experience with DR lead to personal attack on Kai?

Personally, I find his reviews funny and entertaining, love those reviews especially with gals in bikinis!

Was thinking of getting the EVF from them but Wonglp's incident made me rethink as their company's warranty policy is bunch of BS.
 

Dunno why having bad experience with DR lead to personal attack on Kai?

Personally, I find his reviews funny and entertaining, love those reviews especially with gals in bikinis!

Was thinking of getting the EVF from them but Wonglp's incident made me rethink as their company's warranty policy is bunch of BS.

he's an entertaining ass. just that most of his reviews are just FOS and for entertainment. nothing else.
 

he's an entertaining ass. just that most of his reviews are just FOS and for entertainment. nothing else.
thats the whole point of putting reviews on video. you dont expect reviews on video to be full of technical talking where everyone will fall asleep?

look at his video review on Tamron 18-270mm or something.. He made the boring review interesting by having some pretty chick playing snooker.. all i did was LMAO in that video and heard nothing on what the gazillan times zoom lens has to offer!
 

thats the whole point of putting reviews on video. you dont expect reviews on video to be full of technical talking where everyone will fall asleep?

look at his video review on Tamron 18-270mm or something.. He made the boring review interesting by having some pretty chick playing snooker.. all i did was LMAO in that video and heard nothing on what the gazillan times zoom lens has to offer!

and there's my point. from a site made for entertaining viewers with toilet humor... would you expect world-class customer service? especially one that's doing retail of electronic products? i doubt it.
 

I quote DR email here:

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Near the bottom of the page it clearly states that "The warranty is not transferable to a third party." We are just following our company policy. You have stated in your very first email to us saying you purchased the camera off a person whom purchased from our ebay store. This already confirms that the person who bought from us has sold the camera to you (the 3rd party) which means the warranty is already voided. The fact that you and the owner are friends, you cannot simply give it back to him and get him to claim the warranty as that is trying to fraud us. As he has already sold the item to you that voided the warranty already as you are the new owner of the camera. Again, we're terribly sorry but we are not able to proceed with the warranty for this camera. Sorry for the inconvenience caused."

Hi TS,

Here's my suggestion - you try to dig out the email address of the higher-ups, and drop them an appeal. Or you could request for the staff to escalate the case to their superior, as you feel that it may be necessary to take this to a higher level.

Whether we like it or not, sometimes it's not that the company will not entertain such requests - it might be that you have gone to the wrong person. Put yourself in the shoes of the person making the reply (which I assume to be a customer service officer, as is often the case). You have many requests. You have to deal with these requests and all you have to ride on is company policy.. Which may or may not have been crafted to address every single case.

One great example is Sim Wong Hoo's account when he was talking about NUTS (No U-Turn Syndrome). Personally I think such instances do not just apply locally.

The second example in Creative has to do with customer support. Creative pride ourselves as a company that provides the best technical support. All our staff know that. We have 400 people in Oklahoma USA, just listening to phone calls alone. We have a small technical/customer support team in Singapore serving only the small Singapore market. The team is hardworking and dedicated to the company. In general, their service is good and efficient - when there are rules.

There was once when I received a customer’s letter addressed to me complaining about our customer support department (CSD) with regards to a missing CD from our product. Our CSD insisted that the customer get the CD from his dealer who sold him the PC with our product. And the customers attached the letters of exchange. It was such a minor issue but I felt customer satisfaction was most important. So I wrote a small note and asked them to give him the CD and be done with it. CD-ROMs are very cheap anyway.

A few weeks later, I received another letter from this furious customer complaining that our CSD wanted to charge him like $15 for the CD because it was the responsibility of the dealer to give it to him. And he attached even more letters for me to read.

I was very upset this time because, what could have been a very simple and pleasant customer support issue, costing the company less than $1 for the CD-ROM if people in CSD had just given it to him in the first place, now potentially cost the company a bomb:

Firstly, the CSD’s time to write all those letters of exhange, they are way, way over $1. But because of NUTS, our CSD people did not see it. They are just trying to follow rules when there are no rules in such situation.

Secondly, the CEO’s time. I had to read about ten letters two times to figure out the gist of it all. It must have cost the company thousands of dollars. And even after my first instruction to just give him the CD-ROM, they still went into a cat and mouse chase to try to ask him to pay $15. Someone in CSD probably set the rule that if a customer wanted an extra CD-ROM, it would cost him $15 - that is it, regardless of the plight of the customer.

Thirdly, the most expensive part - the harm it had done to our brand name. A potentially unhappy customer would hurt the company way beyond the customer. He would tell all his friends not to buy from the company.

But people with NUTS mentality could not see beyond the rules. They could not see that a $1 CD-ROM was much, much cheaper than their own time, their CEO’s time and the value of the brand name.

I had to call all the three persons involved in this case to my office and explain to them very slowly about our principle of customer support. You could not fault them for dedication, they were trying to make an extra $15 for the company. Not seeing the big picture of how much more it would cost the company. I had told them that for us, the customer’s interest is always in the #1 position. I told them that they were the "customer’s advocates" - they had to be fighting with me for their customer’s interest, rather than the other way round.

Finally, told them to call up the customer directly, apologize and give him the CD-ROM he wanted and ensure that the customer was 100% satisfied. If the customers are not satisfied - we should not take their money.

I think it's worth a try to see if the higher management of Digitalrev will see things from your POV. If anything, it's certainly worth a try and you have nothing to lose. Cheers.
 

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and there's my point. from a site made for entertaining viewers with toilet humor...

Dunno ! :dunno: ...but I know Kai has this obsession with dog poo whenever he reviews a SONY product ! ...so I guess you're right on the toilet humor part.
 

even though im not gonna get anything from digitalrev
i like their video.....
its a fun camera review and stuff...... if id follow everything single kai opinion i wouldnt buy the 5n nor any other camera other then the LEICA M9 :P
 

This is from the Sony warranty. http://www.sony.com.sg/support/resources/en_SG/html/Warranty_Information/TermsandConditions_All.html

So how? Don't buy from Sony?

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The Warranty is non-transferable, and none of the rights or obligations under these Terms and Conditions may be assigned or transferred. A person who is not an applicant for the Warranty shall have no rights under the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act (Cap 53B) to enforce any terms of this Warranty.
 

Hi TS,

Here's my suggestion - you try to dig out the email address of the higher-ups, and drop them an appeal. Or you could request for the staff to escalate the case to their superior, as you feel that it may be necessary to take this to a higher level.

Whether we like it or not, sometimes it's not that the company will not entertain such requests - it might be that you have gone to the wrong person. Put yourself in the shoes of the person making the reply (which I assume to be a customer service officer, as is often the case). You have many requests. You have to deal with these requests and all you have to ride on is company policy.. Which may or may not have been crafted to address every single case.

One great example is Sim Wong Hoo's account when he was talking about NUTS (No U-Turn Syndrome). Personally I think such instances do not just apply locally.



I think it's worth a try to see if the higher management of Digitalrev will see things from your POV. If anything, it's certainly worth a try and you have nothing to lose. Cheers.
best suggest so far,

just a small issue and we spending three pages on it, how many man hour wasting on this and getting it nowhere?

I lock this thread becos starting getting OT. TS may PM me to unlock to post any update of your dealing with Digitalrev.
 

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