Lenspen is actually carbon that absorbs oils and stains. The coating will be intact since its soft sponge at the lenspen tip. To really rub until the coating worn off due to abrasive loss it takes a long long time and probably worn off many lenspens' sponge first.
B+W filters: worth paying so much?
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Lenspen is actually carbon that absorbs oils and stains. The coating will be intact since its soft sponge at the lenspen tip. To really rub until the coating worn off due to abrasive loss it takes a long long time and probably worn off many lenspens' sponge first.
Virgo
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I seldom use my Lenspen now. Using lens cleaning fluid with lens paper for a much cleaner wipe and finish!
As for B+W filters, yes, definitely worth the money. Good stuff always has a price to pay.
No matter how soft, it is still abrasion. Carbon = graphite powder. Even though Graphite has a loose layered structure making it malleable (also used as a lubricant in some situations), it is still abrasive in a way. I've heard of some people who clean their lenses with their lenspens everyday. Their coatings will come off very very much faster.
I am not trying to diss the lenspen. I use it too. But to think that using any sort of wiping device on a lens and thinking that there is no abrasion going on - it is just wishful thinking.
Agree that there is abrasion, it just takes a long time to cause effects we can't really detect, and since we are using it on filters (thus this thread), I won't even think twice. If I gotta wipe and clean I gotta, otherwise its best not to use the equipment or open the packaging at all.
On a recent shoot, stage pyrotechnics singed my face and left three residue lines on my filter, despite the hood shielding the most part, blew with blower, wiped with microfibre and finished off with lenspen. What did more damage? Fireworks or lenspen? Actually none that I can detect unless I use a scope.
ralliart12
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Will wiping with cloth(with & without lens cleaning fluid) caused abrasion of much, much lesser magnitude?
PrimePhotog
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I love my B+W filters but wouldn't hesitate to use a Hoya HMC. Anything else, thats simply a no no.
Lomographer
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definitely in your case.
blueskye168
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Yes, me too, B+W all the way:thumbsup::heart:
Well as for "B+W filters: worth paying so much?" Yes:heart:, if not why I bought until 11-pcs(including some sold liao, eg. those 67mm + 55mm when I was using 17-85IS and FZ50 previously
)lioneldude
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I like it for its anti reflection capability and preventing ghosting. Plus i'm quite rought at cleaning stuff and so far i have not scratch it yet after cleaning with lens cloth and lens solution.
Think it's very worth it though expensive. Yesterday i bought a 58mm MRC UV Haze F-Pro for my Sigma 70-300 to replace the Hoya Pro1 Digital MC Protector and a 72mm MRC UV Haze XS-Pro for my 50mm to replace the F-Pro one. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
IMO the new XS-Pro is pretty costly.
IMO the new XS-Pro is pretty costly.
ManWearPants
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Just bought 2 Hoya HD UV 77mm. Very thin profile and easy to clean as well. However, the claim that it reduce ghosting and flare is overstated. I have used Hoya, Tokina, B+W, Marumi UV filters. Non can eliminate flare and ghosting.
My opinion is all UV seems almost the same to me regardless of brand. The difference is negligible. So no need to worry too much about UV filters.
ManWearPants
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Any diff between the XS-Pro to the Pro1 HMC and F-Pro UV?
Output seems to be similar, but i noticed the coating got slight colour differences.
xxhellinvaderxx
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B+W No Horse Run...
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That is true IMHO for most DECENT brands such as Hoya and B+W. As for brands such as Vitacon, flare is very very easy to get especially when shooting into bright light.
rawshooter
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B+W is like BMW and Hoya is like Toyota...the 'quality of ride' though both gets you to your 'destination'.
Some don't care how's the ride quality as long as they get to their destination, while other appreciate the pleasure of quality.
Not saying that Hoya does not have quality, but to me B+W's brass ring and MRC coating is good enough to pay for the premium. In terms of real dollar value, Brass ring contains copper and copper price is definitely higher than aluminum. So if you scrap your B+W to garang guni, it they will probably worth more..
Some don't care how's the ride quality as long as they get to their destination, while other appreciate the pleasure of quality.
Not saying that Hoya does not have quality, but to me B+W's brass ring and MRC coating is good enough to pay for the premium. In terms of real dollar value, Brass ring contains copper and copper price is definitely higher than aluminum. So if you scrap your B+W to garang guni, it they will probably worth more..
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