anyone heard of SUNY Buffalo?

[agentmonkey]

it's part of the State University of New York (SUNY). just wondering if anyone has heard of it and if you have, what are you thoughts about it?

 

[night86mare]

looking at the sim course?

 

[agentmonkey]

yeah i am..follow up from my ICT and studying at SIM question

 

[night86mare]

yeah i am..follow up from my ICT and studying at SIM question

well it's not a prominent american school, but i think the degree's recognised by the civil service, have people i know studying there

what line are you planning to go into next time though, for example, if you plan to teach then be sure to take the right course.

besides, sim is probably given slightly more respect than most of the other similar organisations.

 

[agentmonkey]

well it's not a prominent american school, but i think the degree's recognised by the civil service, have people i know studying there

what line are you planning to go into next time though, for example, if you plan to teach then be sure to take the right course.

besides, sim is probably given slightly more respect than most of the other similar organisations.

i was thinking something media related like advertising or even journalism..no offence but i already knew that from the sim website, was hoping for a little more insight, by the way man, what are the impressions of your friends who are studying at/with ub? thanks for replying

 

[night86mare]

i was thinking something media related like advertising or even journalism..no offence but i already knew that from the sim website, was hoping for a little more insight, by the way man, what are the impressions of your friends who are studying at/with ub? thanks for replying

seems alright to me, even in current situation with job market limitations looks like they can find a job. mostly doing business though.

if you're talking about other things, then i don't really talk to them about school life per se.

 

[bousozoku]

I could ask some people I know in NY state about it, but state universities in odd cities generally don't have the best programmes. Besides, in Buffalo, they get snow storms that cover houses.

 

[agentmonkey]

I could ask some people I know in NY state about it, but state universities in odd cities generally don't have the best programmes. Besides, in Buffalo, they get snow storms that cover houses.

thanks bousozoku. i'll appreciate that

 

[CS TAN]

well it's not a prominent american school, but i think the degree's recognised by the civil service, have people i know studying there

what line are you planning to go into next time though, for example, if you plan to teach then be sure to take the right course.

besides, sim is probably given slightly more respect than most of the other similar organisations.

SUNY is one of the biggest school system in USA. SUNY consists of 64 campuses (some overseas like the one in SIM) and has an undergraduate student population of nearly 400,000. Asian consists of 4.5% of that student population.

 

[CS TAN]

SUNY Buffalo alone offers:
- 78 undergraduate degrees
- 177 master’s degrees
- 82 doctoral degrees

UB is the largest and most comprehensive in the 64-campus SUNY system with a student population of 28,054 (Fall 2007).

I don't think you can call this campus small. I should know because my daughter is going there in the summer for her final year of her 3-year B.S. degree in Business Administration.

 

[night86mare]

I don't think you can call this campus small. I should know because my daughter is going there in the summer for her final year of her 3-year B.S. degree in Business Administration.

but i never said it was small! i said: "not prominent".

prominent
1)having a quality that thrusts itself into attention[syn: outstanding, prominent, salient, spectacular, striking]
2)conspicuous in position or importance [syn: big, large, prominent]

i am talking about the first definition. why would one care if a school is large in proportion , or not? stanford, yale, harvard, these are prominent by my definition, and most people's; SUNY or buffalo in comparison is relatively unheard of - it is a fact. as to whether prominence is an important factor in one's education, is of course, another issue altogether. we can always take this up on another thread if you wish to.

 

[CS TAN]

I misread your post. My apologies.

I agree on your definitation of prominent. Any program offers by SIM cannot be consider prominent.

It might be unheard of in Singapore but if you ask people in the States, most of them will have heard about SUNY Buffalo. The UB program in SIM is only around 5 years old. Not that many graduates from the Singapore program.

 

[night86mare]

It might be unheard of in Singapore but if you ask people in the States, most of them will have heard about SUNY Buffalo. The UB program in SIM is only around 5 years old. Not that many graduates from the Singapore program.

no problem.. after all prominent can also be construed to mean "large". should have been more specific, perhaps.

yes, unfortunately. i wonder why this seems to be the case for many reasonably alright universities overseas though. i mean, while they might not be top-class, surely some leeway has to be given if a student has done well in a program which is sound and rigorous. :dunno:

 

[CS TAN]

This is life in Singapore. Government sector only recognize prominent universities or local ones. If one goes overseas (or get the degree from an overseas institution like UB in SIM), there is basically no chance of getting into that sector.

However, there are thousands of companies in private sectors that will employ people with a decent degree obtained either overseas or locally so I don't think people getting a degree from SIM under UB program will have problem finding jobs. The important part is how they perform after they are employed.

My daughter went straight from O level (Sec 4) into this 3-yr bachelor program in UB and by the time she finish her degree next year, her secondary school classmates that choose to go through A level/local university route will have just finish their freshman year. She is considering coming back to work for a couple of year before going back to the States to get her MBA. So, there is a good chance she will get her MBA when her classmates get their bachelor degree.

 

[agentmonkey]

This is life in Singapore. Government sector only recognize prominent universities or local ones. If one goes overseas (or get the degree from an overseas institution like UB in SIM), there is basically no chance of getting into that sector.

However, there are thousands of companies in private sectors that will employ people with a decent degree obtained either overseas or locally so I don't think people getting a degree from SIM under UB program will have problem finding jobs. The important part is how they perform after they are employed.

My daughter went straight from O level (Sec 4) into this 3-yr bachelor program in UB and by the time she finish her degree next year, her secondary school classmates that choose to go through A level/local university route will have just finish their freshman year. She is considering coming back to work for a couple of year before going back to the States to get her MBA. So, there is a good chance she will get her MBA when her classmates get their bachelor degree.

and her male counterparts would be sorely lacking behind her because of ns... got to love singapore yeah?

thanks for the feedback, really wanted to hear the impressions of the people...though it's not alot here, better than none....coincidentally i had a random encounter with this abc dude in the swimming pool who chatted me up for some unknown reason (why he chose some hairy guy over the pretty girls in the pool is beyond me) but turns out he was from one of the SUNY universities as well and gave me some insight about UB.

i don't intend to work for the government anyway, so i guess i should be fine..i think

as they say, beggars can't be choosers...SIM is the only place that is willing to give me a chance here in singapore...academically i made my mistakes in my first year of poly which pulled down my gpa..though i learnt from my mistakes and did significantly better in my 2nd and 3rd year and got some book prizes and distinctions, it didn't matter. i guess i'm just not good enough for the local unis when i applied last year and this year...

got a place in monash, but my family can't afford...told monash admin i wanted to defer half a year so i can work out my finances, but that probably means having to take bank loans, and i would rather not be in debt

bitterness aside (but who can i blame but myself), i'm willing to do my best now having learnt my mistakes..all i need is a chance...which i hope sim will give me...if all goes well financially, maybe i'll finish off the degree at the campus itself and hopefully try to get an internship in a company there..provided i can study there for a year

 

[night86mare]

as they say, beggars can't be choosers...SIM is the only place that is willing to give me a chance here in singapore...academically i made my mistakes in my first year of poly which pulled down my gpa..though i learnt from my mistakes and did significantly better in my 2nd and 3rd year and got some book prizes and distinctions, it didn't matter. i guess i'm just not good enough for the local unis when i applied last year and this year...

got a place in monash, but my family can't afford...told them i wanted to defer half a year so i can work out my finances, but that probably means having to take bank loans, and i would rather not be in debt

bitterness aside (but who can i blame but myself), i'm willing to do my best now having learnt my mistakes..all i need is a chance...which i hope sim will give me...if all goes well, maybe i'll finish off the degree at the campus itself and hopefully try to get an internship in a company there..provided i can study there for a year

actually, i think the government *does* recognise buffalo. like it or not, it's still an additional choice.. so i won't exactly shut it out either.

well, making a choice between taking a loan to go overseas versus staying local was a choice that many of my friends had to make; truth be told, it is painful to know that you're in debt, but find out more, i think australia living costs are not as painful as those in the uk - and most of my friends have come here on loans. it isn't easy, and some of them are working while studying, yet they produce superb results that single them out despite the fact that they're juggling a lot.

it all depends on you. so long as you make sure you have a clear mind, and know what you're doing, there is always a way, if there's a will.

 

[agentmonkey]

by the way, i'm taking it your daughter is studying at SIM as well..how does she find it?

 

[bousozoku]

...
It might be unheard of in Singapore but if you ask people in the States, most of them will have heard about SUNY Buffalo
...

I don't believe so. It's likely only those in New York state will know about it, unless it happens to be outstanding in a certain area of study or if it has a great party atmosphere.

 

[CS TAN]

really wanted to hear the impressions of the people...though it's not alot here, better than none....

as you would expect, the students studying in SIM UB are mostly quite well off. After all, the yearly tuition fee is around $24k. There are quite a few coming from places like Malaysia, Indonesia and China. From talking to my daughter, she did feel a bit of peer pressure in the way how people spend their money. Admittedly, we can afford most of the stuff but I don't indulge her in a lot of luxury stuff. She has a part time job that provides her with funds to spend on stuff that she wants. Girls usually have a bigger group of friends than guys and she seems to be managing that quite well. As for the study, she absolutely love it. The American teaching style suits her quite well. She is really enjoying her UB time here and she is also looking forward to going there in the summer.

as they say, beggars can't be choosers...SIM is the only place that is willing to give me a chance here in singapore...academically i made my mistakes in my first year of poly which pulled down my gpa..though i learnt from my mistakes and did significantly better in my 2nd and 3rd year and got some book prizes and distinctions, it didn't matter. i guess i'm just not good enough for the local unis when i applied last year and this year...

got a place in monash, but my family can't afford...told monash admin i wanted to defer half a year so i can work out my finances, but that probably means having to take bank loans, and i would rather not be in debt

bitterness aside (but who can i blame but myself), i'm willing to do my best now having learnt my mistakes..all i need is a chance...which i hope sim will give me...if all goes well financially, maybe i'll finish off the degree at the campus itself and hopefully try to get an internship in a company there..provided i can study there for a year

from what you have said, you will only need one more year in SIM UB since you have already got your poly diploma? As for getting a degree, my own opinion is that at this day and age, that is the min. requirement for someone to survive in this society with a decent income. This is sort of the entrance ticket into the working society. If you can, try to get a second degree or an MBA and you will have a better chance when you climb up the corporate ladder later in your career. Of course, a lot has to do with how well you performance on the job but unless you can get inside the better company, you will not have a chance to show how good you are.

Good luck in your pursuit of your education.

 

[agentmonkey]

as you would expect, the students studying in SIM UB are mostly quite well off. After all, the yearly tuition fee is around $24k. There are quite a few coming from places like Malaysia, Indonesia and China. From talking to my daughter, she did feel a bit of peer pressure in the way how people spend their money. Admittedly, we can afford most of the stuff but I don't indulge her in a lot of luxury stuff. She has a part time job that provides her with funds to spend on stuff that she wants. Girls usually have a bigger group of friends than guys and she seems to be managing that quite well. As for the study, she absolutely love it. The American teaching style suits her quite well. She is really enjoying her UB time here and she is also looking forward to going there in the summer.
from what you have said, you will only need one more year in SIM UB since you have already got your poly diploma? As for getting a degree, my own opinion is that at this day and age, that is the min. requirement for someone to survive in this society with a decent income. This is sort of the entrance ticket into the working society. If you can, try to get a second degree or an MBA and you will have a better chance when you climb up the corporate ladder later in your career. Of course, a lot has to do with how well you performance on the job but unless you can get inside the better company, you will not have a chance to show how good you are.

Good luck in your pursuit of your education.

thanks for your advice and opinions, i appreciated it