Anyone got their hands on the 16-35 f4 yet? (nt)
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bros... i own the 14-24 but i feel its too heavy as a walk-about lens. do you think i should sell it and get 16-35? Also can the new 24/f1.4 be of any use for walk-about/street?
Need some expert views ....
no one answer me leh... :sweat:
Kit
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Only you can answer those questions since no one else know your preferences.....
luntut
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wah don give me this kind of zen answer leh....
i already stated my issue.
this is not exactly a zen answer.
why you were told that, is because, we got no idea how your shooting style is like. by telling us your shooting lens does not tell us everything about your shooting habit, to whether you should change to the 16-35.
when you shoot with the 14-24, do you shoot at 14 or 24 more often? do you think that 24 is still too wide for u? do you think that 16mm is wide enough for you? do you think for yourself, for what you wanna do for yourself?
its very true, that you can only answer the queston yourself. because, if you want me or many others to answer it, many will tell you to buy both and keep. many others will tell you to sell 14-24 and get the 16-35. many others will tell you to keep the 14-24. so end of the day, will this help you????
I thought by i mentioned walk-about - which mean covering the landscape and some random lengthy portrait (close to 35mm) spectrum. Weight and size is the thing that is bothering me. I usually shoot between 14 and 24 like 18-20mm. Will the f4 with VR vs 14-24 on a FF which will be more ideal? That includes night shoots too.
Also will the new 24 f1.4 be a good to cover what i talked about above? I don't mind taking few steps back or front if it doesn't compromise on weight and sharpness.
So what's the majority view on this..... ?
Oh man, asking a question here is like doing a 10 pages kind of questionnaire.... :bigeyes:
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Numnumball
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Numnumball
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Do u seriosuly need the exaggerated ultra wide like what the 14-24 gives u at 18-20? if yes go for the 16-35VRf4//
I ard give a side by side comparsion inmy previous thread above..
U need to understand 24 f1.4 is more catered for handleld lowlight shooting..
Of cos thats is more ideal as a walk abt becos its relatively lighter if u have the dough..
HTH
Bro thanks for your advices! finally got a real good response..
i don't really need the UWA of 14mm with the exception of overseas trip. but if the weight of 16-35 is not that much different as 14-24 then i don't think i will be getting. since you have the 16-35 now, do you think the VR really helps? - especially for street photography where no tripod or monopod is involved.
any idea how much will the 24 F1.4 cost? as much as 14-24?
:thumbsup:
Numnumball
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Bro thanks for your advices! finally got a real good response..
i don't really need the UWA of 14mm with the exception of overseas trip. but if the weight of 16-35 is not that much different as 14-24 then i don't think i will be getting. since you have the 16-35 now, do you think the VR really helps? - especially for street photography where no tripod or monopod is involved.
any idea how much will the 24 F1.4 cost? as much as 14-24?
:thumbsup:
16-35 is 300+ grams lighter than 14-24 (it feels good on my D700 the way 17-35 does)
I believe VR helps.. i can shoot 1/8 s @ 16mm and with VR on , i can get still very good IQ.
24 F1.4 should hovers in the region of 3.1-3.3K
24 F1.4 cost as much as a 70-200 F2.8 VRII?! wow... so much for a prime len. haha
I like the way you phase it as i'm also using D700 now.
Hopefully there is somewhere i can test this len out before buying....
Damned... kana poison...dip dip now.
Numnumball
Senior Member
Nope.. Will try soon.. Busy lately..
haha.. ok, i will wait for your field report then. Hope its promising...
Thanks for your information bro!
luntut
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everybody has their own interpretation of "walkabout". i do my walkabout with a 70-200VR or a 50mm f/1.4. my essense is speed. and i do zoom ins and close ups. your definition of walkabout is ultrawide. as you might realise, by furnishing what exactly you shoot, will help much more then just giving a general idea. 1 sentence will help tonnes, there is no need for 10 pages of questionaires.
for your preference, i will recommend you to stick to the 14-24. the 300 grams less, you will not feel it, since its a lower proportion to the overall weight of the D700 and 14-24, as compared to if the 14-24 is fixed onto a D90 or D5000, then this weight reduction will be very significant.
i have the same issue with weight, i got tired of lugging heavy metal around. i got another D5000 with a 35mm fast prime. that setup became my favourite walkabout lens, and my shooting style also started to change to suit it, since i am bringing it out more.
Hi Luntut,
Thanks for reverting back, glad you pin point my enquiry issue as i didn't know there is so much to look into when i use the word "walkabout". it's just based on my perspective which is why i thought it apply to everyone. :embrass:
Anyway what you mention is very valid, at times i also think will it be better for me to just use a PNS camera instead of a DSLR camera which maybe too overkill for walkabout circumstances. You also talked about the weight difference of 300g which may not be obvious when using switching from 14-24mm to 16-35mm. Do you think switching to prime lens will do any good?
I'm thinking of the new 24 F1.4 but as numnumball mentioned, the price is quite expensive for now. Any other wide angle lens to recommend for walkabout? Any range between 24mm to 35mm will be good for me.
TIA bro!
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luntut
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I have no D700. I only have a D300, which i sometimes use for walkabouts with a 17-55. I found it too heavy for walkabouts, so i got a D5000 with the same 17-55. and its still too heavy, so i got a 35mm for it. the setup became freaking light. when i do bring it out, its mostly with a 35mm or the 18-105 kit lens whcih i got separately.
if you wanna get the new 24 f/1.4, why not get the 2.8 version instead? its really not so bad, and when used correctly with your D700's high ISO, it can be pretty awesome.
to me, i simply refuse to plunge in 3k over for a prime. no matter how fast it can be.
Noted with thanks bro. your 35mm is the DX one right? AF 24mm f/2.8D is available in Singapore? i don seems to see it anywhere....hmm
3k for a prime is quite pricy imo too... or wait for a year now when it's available in b&s. :bsmilie:
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