Any better battery for Sony Nex?


Did you use 3rd party charger to charge your 3rd party battery? I wonder if this is the cause of the swelling, because the charger did not cut-off properly after the battery is full.

I have a 3rd party battery from Courts, which I've been using for around 2 years, and there's no swelling. It can still fit into an A7.
Most of the time I left it to charge overnight.
I've always use Sony original charger, and so far the auto cut-off always works.
This is a 2800mAh battery (Sony's is 1080mAh), and can last about 50-100% longer than the original.

I'm considering to buy a new charger, as I have 3 batteries now ... probably have to buy from Sony as I'm not sure which 3rd party charger is safe to use.

Thanks. There were times I left it charging overnight. Shall observe my use and see how. Probably get a fresh set of 3rd party batteries (originals are too ex to get extras) and monitor my usage and charging.
 

Did you use 3rd party charger to charge your 3rd party battery? I wonder if this is the cause of the swelling, because the charger did not cut-off properly after the battery is full.

I have a 3rd party battery from Courts, which I've been using for around 2 years, and there's no swelling. It can still fit into an A7.
Most of the time I left it to charge overnight.
I've always use Sony original charger, and so far the auto cut-off always works.
This is a 2800mAh battery (Sony's is 1080mAh), and can last about 50-100% longer than the original.

I'm considering to buy a new charger, as I have 3 batteries now ... probably have to buy from Sony as I'm not sure which 3rd party charger is safe to use.

are u saying ur 3rd party battery is rated 2800mAh and ACTUALLY lasts 50-100% longer than an original sony battery? i wouldn't trust those numbers those chiong batteries print.. they anyhow whack some numbers de, but if you actually get 50-100% more vs a relatively new Sony battery, that would be a first i've heard..
 

are u saying ur 3rd party battery is rated 2800mAh and ACTUALLY lasts 50-100% longer than an original sony battery? i wouldn't trust those numbers those chiong batteries print.. they anyhow whack some numbers de, but if you actually get 50-100% more vs a relatively new Sony battery, that would be a first i've heard..

Yup. I also do not trust the "2800mAh", but indeed it last longer than the original. Well, on paper, 2800 mAh is supposed to last 2.5 times longer than original, so the battery does not perform as per the spec. But 1.5 times is good enough for me considering it's a 3rd party :D

For example, if you buy 1160 mAh (US$2.39 from eBay), I don't think this will last longer than the original.

Btw mine is from Divipower (distributor), $48. Not sure what's the original brand/factory as it's not mentioned in the battery itself.
 

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Yup. I also do not trust the "2800mAh", but indeed it last longer than the original. Well, on paper, 2800 mAh is supposed to last 2.5 times longer than original, so the battery does not perform as per the spec. But 1.5 times is good enough for me considering it's a 3rd party :D

For example, if you buy 1160 mAh (US$2.39 from eBay), I don't think this will last longer than the original.

Btw mine is from Divipower (distributor), $48. Not sure what's the original brand/factory as it's not mentioned in the battery itself.

for 3rd party battery, i'll be damn pleased if it lasts as long as original liao. :)
to exceed 1.5x is a huge bonus. but the price is not that cheap too? brand new original can get around $50-$60 from CSer, but if ignoring brand, 1.5x is really damn good!
 

for 3rd party battery, i'll be damn pleased if it lasts as long as original liao. :)
to exceed 1.5x is a huge bonus. but the price is not that cheap too? brand new original can get around $50-$60 from CSer, but if ignoring brand, 1.5x is really damn good!

Yeah good batteries are not cheap. I just checked online, the price now is $38, but I'm not sure if it's the same thing as the one I have or not.
Original can be cheaper during promotion, but currently there's no promotion.

Don't buy the cheap ones, as they usually circumvent some of the safety features and hence may overheat/melt/explode :D
 

Did you use 3rd party charger to charge your 3rd party battery? I wonder if this is the cause of the swelling, because the charger did not cut-off properly after the battery is full.

If you leave your charger on long after the battery is fully charged, and the battery is still hot to touch, then it's time to discard your charger because it does not employ an overcharge protection circuit.

This is a 2800mAh battery (Sony's is 1080mAh), and can last about 50-100% longer than the original.

I'm considering to buy a new charger, as I have 3 batteries now ... probably have to buy from Sony as I'm not sure which 3rd party charger is safe to use.

Many unscrupulous manufacturer will print all kind of attention grabbing numbers to lure buyers to buy their "higher capacity" batteries...the thing is that it is physically impossible to double the capacity within a same battery volume. To offer double the capacity, you often time will need to double or triple the battery size in order to achieve the desired capacity. Sony's cameras (especially their small mirror less ones such as NEX/RX1/A7R etc) are designed to be small, hence a need to compromise it's battery capacity to save the all important real estate. You just cannot achieve higher capacity in those small cells with the current Li-ion chemicals. That's the limitation of the current battery technology, that is unless you wanna move to Nickel Hydrogen (NiH2) power source, or a Hydrogen Fuel Cell :bsmilie:
 

$50-$60 for sealed original battery is a very good price. I will sell more than that for my 2 sealed set since it is completely unopened in sealed hard plastic packaging.

Just buy from Csers at $50-$60 for original sealed set. Fair price compared to buying from shops at $120.

Don't worry about whether they bought it at special price when they bought their cameras though. This was their entitlement, especially for early adopters who paid higher price for their gears. As long as you can get it below the current retail price, it is good enough. $50-$60 is half the original retail price, which is a superb price compared to buying compatible ones with risk of damaging your expensive gear. Win-win.


for 3rd party battery, i'll be damn pleased if it lasts as long as original liao. :)
to exceed 1.5x is a huge bonus. but the price is not that cheap too? brand new original can get around $50-$60 from CSer, but if ignoring brand, 1.5x is really damn good!
 

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its the market price lei. just search clubsnap for the BNIB unopened FW-50.
$50-$60 for sealed original battery is a very good price. I will sell more than that for my 2 sealed set since it is completely unopened in sealed hard plastic packaging.

Just buy from Csers at $50-$60 for original sealed set. Fair price compared to buying from shops at $120.

Don't worry about whether they bought it at special price when they bought their cameras though. This was their entitlement, especially for early adopters who paid higher price for their gears. As long as you can get it below the current retail price, it is good enough. $50-$60 is half the original retail price, which is a superb price compared to buying compatible ones with risk of damaging your expensive gear. Win-win.
 

Sorry but don't understand what you mean.

Market price for FW50 is around $90-$120? Most seller selling sealed unopened set around $60. Still cheaper isn't it?

You expect seller to sell you at $19????

its the market price lei. just search clubsnap for the BNIB unopened FW-50.
 

I just feel using original battery is better due to past experiences of 3rd party batteries that damages the camera...
 

I just feel using original battery is better due to past experiences of 3rd party batteries that damages the camera...

How do you reckon a 3rd party battery can damage a camera? If the output voltage is correct (which is not difficult to get right), a battery is just a simple device that should in theory and practical, not damage any electrical devices, unless you are a marketeer who wants your customers to purchase your over-priced piece of accessory, hence spreading half-truth, fears and rumours etc.

As you said you have past experience, I would be interested to know what it is? I have been playing with various type of lithium batteries, not to mention those with LiFePo4 or NiMh chemistry as well for over 10 years. While I can never claim to be even close to be fully knowledgeable in all things battery related, I do have sufficient experience in handling them and have not seen any batteries damages another device unless you are talking about battery leakages or you are using one with an incorrect output voltage (which should be 3.6V for your camera) or purchased one with bad manufacturing quality. But in general a properly sourced lithium battery should not damage a device. Just because they are no brand or labeled "Made in China" does not mean they are not good as I have seen many 3rd party manufacturers often produces better quality batteries than the OEM (which are also Made in China). User just need to purchase a third party battery from a "safe" and "reputable" source and you should be alright. Of course, for many buying OEM will be the safest (and most expensive) but I think a broad brushstroke generalisation of 3rd party batteries is very far from the truth, because your camera maker do not produces his own batteries and they contracted it to a battery manufacturer in China to OEM for them.

*Just to be upfront, I'm just a hobbyist and a consumer, and I have no vested interest in any trade or sales of batteries, OEM or otherwise.
 

I'll still rather be safe than sorry and purchase oems
 

I will only go with original as well, as no point taking risk with third party batteries for expensive gears. Not expecting that it will explode, but small savings does not equate to the potential risk of damaging the gear, or buying a battery that may not deliver it's promises (duration, holding power, etc).

Just maximise the opportunity to bargain for good price of the additional battery when you buy your camera. It has become a habit for me to get at least 1-2 spare batteries (typically free extra battery for new cameras nowadays) with PWP promotion, or buy from a regular shop which package 1-2 batteries at a good cost price. Most shops will be keen to help to seal the deal, and giving an extra battery with slightly lower price is acceptable for most of the regular shops.

The trick is, always maximise the purchase offer on batteries. Once you walk out with your new camera, you lose your bargaining power and buying batteries will mean retail RRP.

I'll still rather be safe than sorry and purchase oems
 

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Sorry but don't understand what you mean.

Market price for FW50 is around $90-$120? Most seller selling sealed unopened set around $60. Still cheaper isn't it?

You expect seller to sell you at $19????

i'm saying the CS market price for FW50 BNIB and unopened is around $50-$60..
 

$50-$60 for BNIB unopened FW50 is a fair price buddy. That's 50% off the price you can get from Funan.

Grab if you need.

i'm saying the CS market price for FW50 BNIB and unopened is around $50-$60..
 

How do you reckon a 3rd party battery can damage a camera? If the output voltage is correct (which is not difficult to get right), a battery is just a simple device that should in theory and practical, not damage any electrical devices, unless you are a marketeer who wants your customers to purchase your over-priced piece of accessory, hence spreading half-truth, fears and rumours etc.

As you said you have past experience, I would be interested to know what it is? I have been playing with various type of lithium batteries, not to mention those with LiFePo4 or NiMh chemistry as well for over 10 years. While I can never claim to be even close to be fully knowledgeable in all things battery related, I do have sufficient experience in handling them and have not seen any batteries damages another device unless you are talking about battery leakages or you are using one with an incorrect output voltage (which should be 3.6V for your camera) or purchased one with bad manufacturing quality. But in general a properly sourced lithium battery should not damage a device. Just because they are no brand or labeled "Made in China" does not mean they are not good as I have seen many 3rd party manufacturers often produces better quality batteries than the OEM (which are also Made in China). User just need to purchase a third party battery from a "safe" and "reputable" source and you should be alright. Of course, for many buying OEM will be the safest (and most expensive) but I think a broad brushstroke generalisation of 3rd party batteries is very far from the truth, because your camera maker do not produces his own batteries and they contracted it to a battery manufacturer in China to OEM for them.

*Just to be upfront, I'm just a hobbyist and a consumer, and I have no vested interest in any trade or sales of batteries, OEM or otherwise.

Output voltage is only part of the equation.

1. Material used, are they really as listed in the spec list?
2. Cost is so much lower, so how can the cost of same material be so much different?
3. Production... are you sure those company have R&D to ensure the Battery to operate to the spec of the Manufacturer?
4. Capacity.... some battery are so much higher capacity... but how is the discharge?
5. Do you measure the output voltage and that there's no surge? Is it stable throughout all operating temperature?

I have 400D 3rd party cos I cannot buy original cos not in production, and the battery charges does not hold... so talking about QC...

I use a sony video cam after using with third party camera, start to functioning weirdly, and we got a high capacity battery, but after using with it, the function is weird, and brought in for servicing.


You never heard of exploding batteries in handphone? For Apple, even original batt can have such incident, so not to mention 3rd party. Oh... I think they used 3rd party charger... but that screwed up the battery, and phone circuit get short circuit...

Battery is the source of power for the Camera. It is simple, but one of the most important. It is not as simple as some people think it is. What is happening in a battery?

A cycle of process is happening, in which, Chemical process take place, and corrosion happens to produce electrical energy. Battery also leak, and the leakage can damaged the electrical component.

If I have money to buy a $2000 camera, I will budget $100 for extra battery. Not worth to risk damages to the camera.
 

The trick is, always maximise the purchase offer on batteries. Once you walk out with your new camera, you lose your bargaining power and buying batteries will mean retail RRP.

Thanks. I think I will do so in future.... this is good advise.

I rather to have a piece of mind than to take risk with battery as it have the highest possibility to damage the camera's electronics...
 

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